DCCC worried about Barrow, Marshall

The Democratic National Campaign Committee’s official weblog, “The Stakeholder,” last week announced its “Frontline” members for the 2008 election cycle. The Frontline program is “a partnership between the DCCC and Members which lays the ground work for the 2008 cycle by supporting and expanding their fundraising and outreach operations.”

In other words, “Frontline Members” are those that the DCCC worries may lose their seat in 2008. In turn, the national party focuses a great deal of support on that district.

Making the list of 29:

Representative John Barrow (GA-12)
Representative Jim Marshall (GA-08)


  1. Jmac says:

    Perhaps Barrow, but it’s hard to believe that Marshall could survive such a strong run by Mac Collins and then lose two years later.

  2. I don’t know if “worried” is the right word, more like on the radar. Behind Chet Edwards, Marshall may have the toughest district in the country. A Democrat is just not supposed to represent a district like that, period.

    Barrow, on the other hand, has a district that a Democrat should grow into quite nicely. I’m not saying that either one of these guys won’t have tough races next year or 2 years after that, but from a Democrat’s perspective it is good to see the DCCC mobilizing to hold onto their gains and hopefully pick up a few more seats next time.

  3. commonsense says:

    The GOP needs targets, these districts, esp Marshall’s, from a numbers prespective, look good.

    Here’s the problem for you guys though, who will get more votes out for the GOP, a Gov that won with nearly 60% of the vote or a GOP Pres candidate whose going to have to deal with Iraq.

    You couldn’t win with the former so how could you with the latter?

  4. Bull Moose says:

    Who would run against Barrow?

    Geography says that it needs to be someone with a strong base in Chatham County, either politically or geographically.

    I don’t see Burns making another run and having any better luck than he did the past couple of races.

    Some names I hear bounting about are Rep. Buddy Carter, Senator Tommie Williams, and WTOC Anchor Sonny Dixon.

  5. drjay says:

    would sonny dixon run as a democrat or a gop.

    max burns said something at a 12th district gop meeting last month that leads me to believe he might still want to run…

  6. mainstream GOP says:

    Jmac I agree, I think many in the 3rd wouln’t have voted for Mac if they didn’t believe that that seat could mean the difference of who gets majority status..Mac ran a suprisingly amaturistic campaign, and he can’t h0ld a candle to Jim in a debate..I think think a re-match between them would be like the re-match agaist Calder Clay, resultig in a near land-slide for Marshall.

    Unlike Marshall, Barrow voted for this non-binding B.S. resolution from the house, and Max is a great candidate..I think we could win this, that is if we finally refrain from diverting thousands of GAGOP dollars from our congressional candidates to non-partisan candidates for the supreme court.

  7. IndyInjun says:

    Max Burns is a miserable candidate who alienated the fiscal conservative wing of the GOP. He paid dearly for abandoning spending restraint.

    No one is damned in politics and Burns seems to be a good man. He just needs to serve in some role to restore confidence in his adherence to conservatism, then mount a come-back.

    Until he manages to do so, we fiscal conservatives won’t be around to support him and the GOP will be throwing away resources to back him.

    If the Republican Congressional Campaign Committee and TWO VISITS by Air Force One could not pull it out for Burns in 2006, he can forget it in 2008.

  8. John Douglas says:

    Jim Marshall continues to try to have it both ways. He votes for Nancy (Defeat and Retreat) Pelosi for Speaker and then against their Surrender resolution. What did he expect to come from his fellow Democrats? Plus his remarks in the Sunday AJC editorial section were disingenuous to say the least: Hey GI Joe, dont worry about what is being said and done in DC, it doesnt matter anyway. (paraphrased) My question to Marshall is why is he there if what they are doing doesnt matter?

    Hey Jim, you cant have it both ways………in spite of what you are trying to do. Any your party is stabbing our troops and war effort in the back. Way to play guys.

  9. Adam Fogle says:

    Who would run against Barrow?

    It is a while off, but your short list is pretty accurate. At this point, Tommie Williams has to be the frontrunner.

    Geography says that it needs to be someone with a strong base in Chatham County, either politically or geographically.

    Depends on what you mean by “strong.” All the GOP candidate needs do is pull 35-to-40 percent in Richmond and Chatham. What killed Max was lower-than-expected Republican turnout in Effingham, Burke, Warren, Washington, Jefferson and Baldwin.

    If the Republican candidate can turnout their base in those counties, and carry three of the latter four, then he/she can easily beat Barrow.

    Max lost by less than 1,000 votes… higher turnouts in those counties would have given him the win.

  10. SevenHillsDem says:

    Senator Douglas,

    Hitting Jim Marshall for voting for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker is pretty weak, to say the least. Along with every other member of his party, he voted for his own party’s leadership to lead the next Congress. Honestly, did you expect him to vote for John Boehner?

    In your post, you’ve essentially knocked back the ignorant accusation that Marshall is too partisan and proved that he is independent minded enough to vote his party’s leaders, but obviously not agree with them on everything. And, of all the Democrats to attack for being soft on the troops, I think Jim Marshall is as far from being the best one as possible.

    But, if you and the rest of the Senate Republicans feel so strongly about it, you have the power to redraw him as much as you want.

  11. Mad Dog says:

    Republicans must be very worried about losing Chambliss to start a thread on who the DCCC will support in 2008.

    Burns better take the job at NGCSU and like it.

  12. Decaturguy says:

    Why don’t you run against Marshall Sen. Douglas?

    What a great day that would be. You would lose to Marshall and you would also be out of the State Senate.

    Rep. John (“I want more of our boys to die in a Civil War in Iraq”) Douglas. Has a nice ring to it.

  13. IndyInjun says:

    Chambliss has shown the same ‘honoring’ of conservative primciples as Burns.

    I hope he meets the same fate.

    If the GOP really stood for anything at all, a strong challenge would be mounted to dump this imposter, irrespective of his $2 million war chest.

    The GOP needs not look very far for someone to blame for the 2006 debacle, but won’t look in the mirror. 2008 may be even worse for them.

  14. Jmac says:

    I’m just more troubled that we have an elected representative who is incapable of composing intelligent sentences and/or arguments.

  15. Bill Simon says:

    $2 million ain’t squat for Chambliss. If he thinks that amount will save his bacon against someone like Marshall, then he remains in my mind as a guy not too bright.

  16. After I read that book “Everything I Ever Really Needed to Know I learned in Kindergarten” the first thing I wondered to myself was whether they had kindergarten back when John Douglas was a boy.

  17. mainstream GOP says:

    Senator, with all due respect, I don’t think it is very damning to Marshall to have voted for Nancy Pelosi..the vote for speaker is almost always on party lines, and to vote against her would get him a severe backlash amongst Congressional Democrats who already are skeptical of him (and Gene Taylor of Mississipi, the only other Zell Democrat left in D.C)..plus voting for Pelosi was in his best interests because it gave him more clout in the committees he’s in.

    I mean, do you hold it against Zell Miller that he voted for Tom Daschle for Majority Leader in 2003?

  18. mainstream GOP says:

    you have to be kidding me, Im sure the DSCC has much better targets they want to knock off rather than Chambliss..and Vernon Jones is not going anywhere, trust me!

    they are looking at Norm Coleman, but Al Franken (love’d Stuart Smalley from SNL) is a joke candidate.

    I’d say the best the GA Dems can throw up would be Jim Marshall, but Chambliss would still win by 53%+..I think many would look at it as what’s the point, theyre too alike..Im sticking with the incumbent. Plus if Jim leaves his seat, it automatically goes GOP.

    I mean, I know you Democrats are desperate..I cant say I blame you, but to think you can knock of a good man like Saxby (ecspecially with Vernon Jones) is a little insane. Let’s face it, Georgia Democrats are working their way up the list of Endangerd Species.

  19. rightofcenter says:

    Indy Injun: Grow up and meet this new idea called reality.

    Sen. Douglas: Methinks you show poor judgement to come on a political webpage and childishly insult a U. S. Congressman, particularly for such an inane reason as supporting his party’s house leadership.

    You liberal Dems (and Bill Simon): Saxby has crushed Marshall before and he would do it again – the South is not about to defeat a sitting conservative Republican anytime soon, and Marshall isn’t about to leave a relatively safe seat to try it anyway.

  20. IndyInjun says:


    You are WRONG and Off-Center if you believe that we CONSERVATIVES, who are not GOP apologists and hacks, did not torpedo Burns for his abandonment of GOP principles and won’t do the same to Chambliss.

    Go above and read of the low GOP turnout in critical counties. That was no accident.

    Some of your ‘luminaries ‘ told me that I ‘have no place to go’


    I am R-E-A-L-I-T-Y. You GOPers cannot win without the Indies, as 2006 proved. Insulting us only worsens matters, when your party can get us back simply by returning to your stated PRINCIPLES and finding candidates true to them.

    Ah, but the reality is that you value power above all.

    Such a shame……

  21. Bull Moose says:

    To win the 12th District you have to perform in Chatham County.

    The GOP vote is maxed out in Effingham, Warren, Burke, etc… and nearly so in Richmond.

    A Republican that wants to win the 12th has to do well in Chatham County. It’s that simple.

  22. rightofcenter says:

    Conservatives did not do in Max. He was done in by whoever drew his district up. A 40% black district is an incredible hurdle for a Republican, yet he lost by less than 1000 votes. He did better than any statewide Republicans (other than Sonny) in those counties you mentioned.

    I certainly wasn’t calling Bill Simon a liberal Dem. I was merely lumping his comments suggesting Saxby’s vulnerability in with the Dems.

  23. Bill Simon says:


    My point is, I’m not so sure the Atlanta-metro Republican voters are going to be able to stomach voting for Chambliss again if a well-financed, South Georgia Democratic candidate were to run against him.

    Plus, look at it this way…the agricultural-swing voters in South Georgia have to be thinking hard about their decision in 2008 for Saxby. Why?

    Because right now, Chambliss has pretty close to ZERO influence on the Senate committee he sits on. Which means that all of those “goodies” Saxby was able to promise and deliver on to South Georgia for his previous 4 years were really only tied to the fact that the Senate was controlled by the GOP, as was the House and Presidency.

    In 2008, those ag-folks are going to be thinking heavily about the odds on electing both a Republican President and a Republican Senator to cover their needs. Electing Saxby back to the Senate will do nothing for them if a Democrat is elected President.

    So, again, $2 million in the bank for a statewide, top-o’the-ticket race now is meaningless in the macro-picture of who the GOP chooses as their presidential candidate.

  24. DutchDawg says:

    Mad Dog // Feb 19, 2007 at 7:43 pm


    Chambliss wouldn’t know a democracy if he tripped over it.


    Mad dog – we don’t live in a democracy. The U.S. has never been a Democracy. We’re a representative republic…but I would have thought you knew that. “Democracy” is nothing more than mob-rule. FDR was the one who started using “Democracy”, incorrectly I might add, to describe the U.S. Better dust off the ole high school civics book, buddy

  25. drjay says:

    this may never be read since this thread is from so long ago but if the political “city ink” writer in the augusta paper is to be believed former augusta mayor bob young may be looking at a race in the 12th…

    THE GENERAL TAKES ORDERS: Former Augusta Mayor Bob Young told the Youth Leadership group that his appointment( as a hud regional director) is the equivalent of a general in the Army. He said he gets great treatment wherever he shows up.

    “It’s even better than being a mayor,” he said.

    He talked about serving at the pleasure of the president and how he would submit his resignation when President Bush leaves office. One student asked, “What will you do then? Will you be sitting at home?”

    “No,” replied Mr. Young. “Mrs. Young won’t allow that.”

    ESCAPE HATCH: When a reporter tried to pin Mr. Young down on whether he had completely ruled out running for the late Charlie Norwood’s congressional seat, he ducked answering it by citing the Hatch Act, which prevents federal employees from engaging in partisan political activities.

    However, Mr. Young is weighing his options, according to political observers, and could run for the 12th District seat next year if he doesn’t run for the 10th.

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