Comments on: Come On Boys, Bring Your Wives and Kids Down To The Capitol Today, But Try To Avoid All Those “Fringe Groups” On Your Way Over Here http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/ Fresh Political Pickins From The Peach State Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:50:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: rugby_fan http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-3/#comment-49438 rugby_fan Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:14:44 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49438 No one has answered my question about Rep. Davis' statement about the "wifes". Does that mean Sen. Schaeffer is married to a woman? No one has answered my question about Rep. Davis’ statement about the “wifes”.

Does that mean Sen. Schaeffer is married to a woman?

]]> By: Erick http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-3/#comment-49421 Erick Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:07:50 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49421 Amber, it wouldn't be right in that case either. Decaturguy, I skimmed the statement. It should have legitimately been "spouses." Amber, it wouldn’t be right in that case either.

Decaturguy, I skimmed the statement. It should have legitimately been “spouses.”

]]> By: Amber http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-3/#comment-49410 Amber Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:16:13 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49410 <blockquote>It’s just not cool to drag someone’s mother into the argument. That’s uncalled for.</blockquote> That is perhaps true. But I guess when it's "fringe groups" like working-class families, people of color, and OMG TEH GAYZ!!1! then it's a-okay, full speed ahead.

It’s just not cool to drag someone’s mother into the argument. That’s uncalled for.

That is perhaps true. But I guess when it’s “fringe groups” like working-class families, people of color, and OMG TEH GAYZ!!1! then it’s a-okay, full speed ahead.

]]> By: Amber http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-3/#comment-49409 Amber Thu, 15 Feb 2007 23:14:31 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49409 <blockquote>You guys have read so deeply into Davis’ statements and passed such harsh judgment on fabricated prejudice that you can’t back out of it. Amazing.</blockquote> Well, here's the thing, jsm... people who <em>aren't</em> offended by something don't get to decide whether or not it's offensive <em>to anybody</em>. "I am offended by this because..." (which has been demonstrated on this thread) cannot reasonably be followed by "nuh-uh!!!" That's not how communication works. That's not how discourse works. It's how something works, and I can think of two letters that represent that something. Examples of the bigoted language? I believe those are in the post itself, in Re. Davis's quote, particularly the bold portions. I'm not sure what you're grasping for here.

You guys have read so deeply into Davis’ statements and passed such harsh judgment on fabricated prejudice that you can’t back out of it. Amazing.

Well, here’s the thing, jsm… people who aren’t offended by something don’t get to decide whether or not it’s offensive to anybody. “I am offended by this because…” (which has been demonstrated on this thread) cannot reasonably be followed by “nuh-uh!!!” That’s not how communication works. That’s not how discourse works. It’s how something works, and I can think of two letters that represent that something.

Examples of the bigoted language? I believe those are in the post itself, in Re. Davis’s quote, particularly the bold portions. I’m not sure what you’re grasping for here.

]]> By: griftdrift http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-3/#comment-49402 griftdrift Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:38:07 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49402 Or indicative of his subconcoius thoughts. Or indicative of his subconcoius thoughts.

]]> By: jsm http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49401 jsm Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:36:16 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49401 Decatur, isn't that being a little touchy? I think treating the "wives" reference as a deliberate comment against female legislators is a stretch. Decatur, isn’t that being a little touchy? I think treating the “wives” reference as a deliberate comment against female legislators is a stretch.

]]> By: Decaturguy http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49397 Decaturguy Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:21:04 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49397 I apologize for thinking better of you. I apologize for thinking better of you.

]]> By: Decaturguy http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49396 Decaturguy Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:19:56 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49396 Erick, Rep. Davis said that "family day" was a day that legislators bring their <b>wives</b> and kids to see what they do in Atlanta as if it were 1912 and there were no females with husbands in the legislature. He then proceeds to call any number of ordinary citizens "fringe groups" and degrades their right to participate in family day. And you argree with the moron? Erick,

Rep. Davis said that “family day” was a day that legislators bring their wives and kids to see what they do in Atlanta as if it were 1912 and there were no females with husbands in the legislature.

He then proceeds to call any number of ordinary citizens “fringe groups” and degrades their right to participate in family day.

And you argree with the moron?

]]> By: Erick http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49392 Erick Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:04:53 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49392 Rusty, It's just not cool to drag someone's mother into the argument. That's uncalled for. And full disclosure, I agree with Rep. Davis. Rusty,
It’s just not cool to drag someone’s mother into the argument. That’s uncalled for.

And full disclosure, I agree with Rep. Davis.

]]> By: jsm http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49385 jsm Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:43:45 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49385 Give examples of the "bigoted language." Give examples of the “bigoted language.”

]]> By: Rusty http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49373 Rusty Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:32:37 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49373 jsm, Care to explain what you even mean by "fabricated predjudice"? Just because you say something is fabricated doesn't make it so. Do we need to get into hypotheticals involving your mother again? Rep. Davis' statement was loaded to the gills with bigoted language. He is a disgrace to his office, and your attempts to defend him are disgraceful. jsm,
Care to explain what you even mean by “fabricated predjudice”? Just because you say something is fabricated doesn’t make it so. Do we need to get into hypotheticals involving your mother again? Rep. Davis’ statement was loaded to the gills with bigoted language. He is a disgrace to his office, and your attempts to defend him are disgraceful.

]]> By: jsm http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49369 jsm Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:01:11 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49369 You guys have read so deeply into Davis' statements and passed such harsh judgment on fabricated prejudice that you can't back out of it. Amazing. You guys have read so deeply into Davis’ statements and passed such harsh judgment on fabricated prejudice that you can’t back out of it. Amazing.

]]> By: Amber http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49354 Amber Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:44:30 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49354 Besides, even if it really <em>was</em> ignorance (which I am not buying for a second), that doesn't make it excusable. Not by a longshot. Besides, even if it really was ignorance (which I am not buying for a second), that doesn’t make it excusable. Not by a longshot.

]]> By: Rusty http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49353 Rusty Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:41:20 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49353 griftdrift, Excellent suggestion. jsm, You and many others on this thread are working hard to write off his bigotry as ignorance and/or a parental decision. Won't fly. griftdrift,
Excellent suggestion.

jsm,
You and many others on this thread are working hard to write off his bigotry as ignorance and/or a parental decision. Won’t fly.

]]> By: Amber http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49351 Amber Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:34:39 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49351 <blockquote>Rusty, re-read his actual comments and try to find where he said fringe groups are bad or that their demonstrations should not be allowed.</blockquote> People don't have to actually come right out and use those exact words to be offensive. In fact, they rarely do. History should tell you that.

Rusty, re-read his actual comments and try to find where he said fringe groups are bad or that their demonstrations should not be allowed.

People don’t have to actually come right out and use those exact words to be offensive. In fact, they rarely do. History should tell you that.

]]> By: griftdrift http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49324 griftdrift Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:22:56 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49324 "Unless you’re bringing 100,000 people to the Gold Dome, no one will care." I think I have a suggestion for the route of this years Pride Parade... “Unless you’re bringing 100,000 people to the Gold Dome, no one will care.”

I think I have a suggestion for the route of this years Pride Parade…

]]> By: jsm http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49313 jsm Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:34:50 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49313 "Exposure is a word used to talk about disease. " Not always. Exposure is often used regarding good things--the arts, other cultures, charity work, etc. You're really working hard to make Rep. Davis's comments more than they are. Rusty, re-read his actual comments and try to find where he said fringe groups are bad or that their demonstrations should not be allowed. It's not there, yet you call him a "racist, sexist bigot" among other things. With your English degree and journalism background, you should be able to break down written English better than that. All he was saying is that he wanted to shield his family from demonstrations by various groups and what he considers adult issues. How does that warrant the name calling he has endured here? “Exposure is a word used to talk about disease. ”

Not always. Exposure is often used regarding good things–the arts, other cultures, charity work, etc. You’re really working hard to make Rep. Davis’s comments more than they are.

Rusty, re-read his actual comments and try to find where he said fringe groups are bad or that their demonstrations should not be allowed. It’s not there, yet you call him a “racist, sexist bigot” among other things. With your English degree and journalism background, you should be able to break down written English better than that. All he was saying is that he wanted to shield his family from demonstrations by various groups and what he considers adult issues. How does that warrant the name calling he has endured here?

]]> By: Rep. Bridges Equates Teaching Evolution to Indoctrinating Students in Ancient Judaism | Peach Pundit http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49310 Rep. Bridges Equates Teaching Evolution to Indoctrinating Students in Ancient Judaism | Peach Pundit Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:27:21 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49310 [...] Apparently not content to let Rep. Steve Davis be the most wacked out member of the Georgia General Assembly this week, State Rep. Ben Bridges apparently has been circulating a memo, which found its way into the hands of the Texas Legislature this week, arguing that teaching evolution in schools “amounts to indoctrinating students in an ancient Jewish sect’s beliefs.”  [...] [...] Apparently not content to let Rep. Steve Davis be the most wacked out member of the Georgia General Assembly this week, State Rep. Ben Bridges apparently has been circulating a memo, which found its way into the hands of the Texas Legislature this week, arguing that teaching evolution in schools “amounts to indoctrinating students in an ancient Jewish sect’s beliefs.”  [...]

]]> By: Amber http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49307 Amber Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:11:04 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49307 <blockquote>And to make a point. I do not support the minimum wage. I do not support affirmative action or the VRA. I do not support gay marriage. I do not support commuter rail.</blockquote> Rep. Davis, What <strong>do</strong> you support?

And to make a point.

I do not support the minimum wage.
I do not support affirmative action or the VRA.
I do not support gay marriage.
I do not support commuter rail.

Rep. Davis,
What do you support?

]]> By: CobbGOPer http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/comment-page-2/#comment-49302 CobbGOPer Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:43:50 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2007/02/14/come-on-boys-bring-your-wives-and-kids-down-to-the-capitol-today-but-try-to-avoid-all-those-fringe-groups-on-your-way-over-here/#comment-49302 Seems to me like the Libertarians get on the ballot here all the time lately... Or maybe I was just dreaming when Garrett Michael Hayes participated in the gubernatorial debates last year... Seems to me like the Libertarians get on the ballot here all the time lately…

Or maybe I was just dreaming when Garrett Michael Hayes participated in the gubernatorial debates last year…

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