Westmoreland visits the State Senate

Senator David Shafer reports this piece of information:

Congressman Lynn Westmoreland paid a visit to the Senate Chamber today. He spoke briefly and concluded his remarks by expressing an interest in working with us in state government “once again.” He was not any more specific but I am pretty sure he does not have plans to run again for his old seat in the Georgia House of Representatives.


  1. Old School Politics says:

    Lynn Westmoreland is a great person and has always been solid. I hope he comes back to Georgia and runs.

  2. Brian from Ellijay says:

    “He was not any more specific but I am pretty sure he DOES NOT have plans to run again for his old seat in the Georgia House of Representatives.”

  3. Bull Moose says:

    Well, I for one think that voting AGAINST earmark reform, the 9/11 Commission recommendations, lower interest rates for student loans, and for his participation and very vocal defense and support of Tom DeLay and the record deficit spending spewed by the Congress will be a little stumbling block to coming back to GA and running for anything.

    I mean, for heaven’s sake, how do you vote against earmark reform?

    Oh need I mention that Westmoreland was a leader in trying to revoke the Voting Rights Act? I’m sure that will go over real well in a general election.

    Thanks but no thanks.

  4. Jason Pye says:

    Bull Moose, he has voted for earmark reform. His reasoning for voting against PAYGO are completely valid and I believe he was right.

    The earmark reform was put on the PAYGO bill, despite efforts to keep them separate.

  5. Jason Pye says:

    Bull Moose,

    In the 1o9th Congress, Westmoreland voted for the Flake Amendments.

    Jeff Flake has been the most outspoken member of Congress on earmark and even he voted against the PAYGO bill because it is a farce. Sadly people like you and John Konop are buying into it.

    They weren’t voting against earmark reform, they were voting against PAYGO.

  6. Bull Moose says:


    So, not only did he vote against earmark reform, he voted against paying as you go in terms of spending…

    Gosh, try and sell that to the public…

  7. Jason Pye says:

    Bull Moose,

    You are buying into it. PAYGO is a joke.

    If they reach a point there is no funding they’ll either have to scrap the program(s) or increase revenues…and how does government increase revenues? They’ll raise taxes.

    The PAYGO bill is a deception.

  8. atlantaman says:

    “Oh need I mention that Westmoreland was a leader in trying to revoke the Voting Rights Act? I’m sure that will go over real well in a general election.”

    I think you might be politically tone deaf. Most folks who live in the state of Georgia (excluding your hardcore Dems) who have an awareness of the Voting Rights Act resent the fact we are treated differently then other states. Folks in liberal states, who are not affected by it, like it because it makes them feel as if they are better than those racist redneck folks.

    We are paying for the sins of a generation before us and most are very far removed from the days of Lester Maddox, except for Tommy Irvin of course.

    It’s the equivalent of punishing Nelson Mandela and South Africa for Apartheid.

    The real question is will it go over well with those rural, middle Georgia swing voters who determine the outcome of our statewide elections. You know the ones who are very proud of their southern heritage, who are torn between their Democrat roots and the increasingly liberal direction the Dems are moving in. Why don’t you rethink whether those folks would have a problem with Westmoreland’s principled stand against Georgia and a few other southern states being treated like second class citizens.

    Don’t forget, to run in the General you’ve got to win what is expected to be a very competitive GOP Primary – perhaps a more competitive race than the General. How do you think the issue would play to the Conservative GOP Primary voter?

  9. Bull Moose says:

    blah blah blah… You really don’t have an understanding of political perceptions do you?

    It amazes me that some people who claim to be so politicaly knowledgable can be so ignorant in terms of political perceptions.

    Westmoreland can stay where he is, he’s not my first, second, third, fourth, or even fifth candidate for Governor.

  10. rooney says:

    Lynn Westmoreland was not “a leader in trying to revoke the Voting Rights Act.” He proposed amendments that would have required that the particular section at issue – Section 5 which requires preclearance for covered jurisdictions – either not be renewed or if renewed, the renewal would be on same rational basis. All or part of 16 states are subject to Section 5. Lynn proposed that the renewal of the preclearance requirements be based on a standard that was constitutional rather than one that looks at a snapshot of a point in time 42 years ago. Under the renewed Section 5, covered jurisdictions must submit every election-related change (including moving a polling place from one side of the street to another) if in 1964 (yes. 42 years ago), those jurisdictions had discriminatory voting procedures in effect, had a low rate of black registration, etc. Lynn thought that maybe Congress ought not to be so lazy and should look at a reasonable standard that wasn’t decades old and so covers all the old offenders – whether or not they are still offenders – and none of the new offenders.

  11. atlantaman says:

    So from reading your last post I take it you believe it would be a wise political move to campaign in resounding support of the Voting Rights Act during the GOP Primary? Perhaps one could throw in some pro-illegal immigrant and pro-gun control rhetoric for the Georgia GOP trifecta.

  12. atlantaman says:


    Just for the record I thought the discussion was regarding the preclearance issues of the VRA, I never thought Westmoreland was trying to revoke the VRA. I should have noticed that point in the original post regarding Westmoreland and the VRA.

  13. Jason Pye says:

    You really don’t have an understanding of political perceptions do you?

    I’d rather have someone vote for something on principle, than for political points. It’s why I look up to Ron Paul and Jeff Flake.

  14. Pappy says:

    “It’s the equivalent of punishing Nelson Mandela and South Africa for apartheid”

    With analogies like that, no wonder GA ranks so low in SAT scores.

  15. landman says:

    The ’10 Govs race is shaping up to be a slug fest unless one particuliar person grows tired of D.C.(and that person is not Westmorland) then the field will clear. Should that not happen and it becomes a three way race it will be interesting to watch.
    My experience with Lyn is he is one who will tell you want yuou want to hear while he is talking to you and tell the next guy the exact opposite while he is talking to him,not a good leadership trait in my opinion.
    If this becomes a three horse race he will be bringing up the rear.

  16. BB says:

    Thanks Jason for posting the WSJ explanation of paygo. No wonder the entire GA (R) delegation along with Flake, Pence, Paul, Tancredo and all other conservatives voted against it.

  17. leftrightcombo says:

    I don’t know a whole lot about Westmoreland. I do know that he can run a mean campaign and get thru a Rep. primary. He can also raise enough money to be a serious candidate for a state wide office. The real problem or test will be how much political clout does he have left in GA. He spent a lot of political capitol on getting elected to congress.

  18. CobbGOPer says:

    Westmoreland is not the type of leader we need, IMHO. I saw the kind of tactics he uses first-hand in the GOP primary for the 8th District in ’04 (I was a Dylan Glenn guy), and it’s not the kind of politics I want in the Governor’s Mansion.

    And that’s aside from the fact that I don’t have a high opinion of his leadership abilities. Westmoreland would not make a good chief executive.

    My sincere hope is that Isakson runs.

  19. Old School Politics says:

    Is the 2010 line up- Johnny Isakson vs. Casey Cagle vs. Glenn Richardson vs. Lynn Westmoreland vs. Dylan Glenn vs. Mac Collins vs. Ray MacBerry?

  20. ConservativeCaucus says:

    I have heard Tom Price and Phil Gingrey mentioned as well – Gingrey I take more seriously than Price though.

  21. rugby_fan says:

    I think every elected Republican should run for Governor in 2010.

    Or, at least, that is where we are heading.

  22. CobbGOPer says:

    Nah, if Isakson decides to run, that will just about clear the field for him. You’ll see folks like Cagle, Richardson, and maybe Westmoreland, Price, or Gingrey, line up to fill Isakson’s Senate seat.

    If Johnny decides to stay in the Senate, then you’ll see the rest line up to duke it out in a GOP gubernatorial primary.

  23. Bull Moose says:

    Okay, let me clarify a few things for you people here that don’t seem to understand the point I’m trying to make.

    I don’t think you can win a general election with baggage that Westmoreland has on him. It’s in his votes, the political opportunism, and his style.

    He gives too many convenient issues to the Dems, reason number 1 not to nominate him in 2010. Others include:

    1. Voting Rights Act. It’s too easy to say that he voted against it. That he lead the fight to defeat it. Will that be an issue in a primary? No, but I can assure you it would be in the general election.

    2. Earmark Reform. Congress abused the process and when legislation came forward to allow sunshine on it, he voted against it. That will be a big deal in a primary certainly if he faces someone on the state level or if Johnny Isakson runs (he voted for earmark reform).

    3. Everything else. Any House Republican has a lot of baggage to deal with, from vocal defense of Tom DeLay to running up huge deficits. Here’s the question, do we want a Washington Republican House member to do to Georgia what they did to Washington DC? I’d hope not. Dems used it very well in Iowa to defeat Nussle.

    2010 is a LONG way away. When looking for a candidate for Governor, I’m looking for someone with a track record of success, someone who is personally honest and sincere, someone who has the best interests of the state and not their personal political career and finally someone who is not going to be overly partisan and dogmatic in their partisanship, in short, I’m looking for a leader. Two people fit that bill and I’ll let you decide who they are.

    As a entity, House Members tend to be more partisan and that clouds their objectivity. There are some who I respect in that fashion such as Charlie Norwood. Mr. Norwood will tell you what he thinks and you can take that to the bank. While I don’t always agree with his politics, I know that he isn’t going to fall victim to political persuasion. He’s a true man of conviction. I hope he has a speedy recovery.

  24. lawyerose says:

    If Georgia will take back Lyn Westmoreland it will be doing the rest of the country a great public service. He is the PosterBoy for Hypocrisy! Ten Commandments indeed, what an idiot– exposed by his own blank, deer in the headlights, nationally televised ignorance. And he’s in the news again, complaining about Al Gore on the floor and a House rule good ol’ Lyn’s too dumb to understand.

  25. Jason Pye says:

    I’m glad someone is complaining about Gore.

    And for someone complaining about a person being dumb…perhaps you should take note that his name is spelled Lynn, not Lyn.

  26. Jeff Emanuel says:

    Bull Moose, having reread this thread, as well as all of the other comments you subject us to, I think I’ve finally figured it out.

    You’re a Liberal.

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