Sonny Wants Big Government, Not the People, to Make “these kind of decisions”

Like when or when you can buy beer or wine.

As reported by Political Insider.  Listen to the radio clip here. 

Sonny says “can’t do government really by referendum.”

Oh, really?  So it is OK to have a referendum to “protect” hunting and fishing, or to protect families from the threat of two individuals who want to get married.  But it is not OK to allow the citizens of cities and counties to decide whether wine or beer gets sold there on Sundays. 

What a hypocrite!

 

 

 

31 comments

  1. waterboy says:

    Decaturguy –
    How about a referendum to set local speed limits on state and local roads? How about a local referendum to allow smoking in restaurants a couple of days per week? How about a referendum to set the school schedule? Let’s just have a friggin’ referendum on everything OR you could just buy your beer on Saturday and move on.

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  3. Jason Pye says:

    The smoking ban was a blatant violation of private property rights.

    Government that governs best governs the least.

    Put the control back in local hands.

  4. We already have counties and cities vote on whether to serve alcohol the other 6 days of the week. Maybe Sonny can explain why Sunday is special and should be decided by the state?

  5. CHelf says:

    Looking at this with logic, the arguments of keeping the status quo hold little water…or beer. It is strange to see the leaders of “less government running our personal lives” actually standing up and saying it is OK for 6 days to buy alcohol and drive drunk but add one more day when most are sitting in front of a TV watching sports….that would be evil. If it is a moral issue and one of lives, are we saying that 6 of 7 days (a large majority) is quite alright to allow death and destruction on the road? And a clarification for the AJC and others confused on Christianity…the Sabbath is still on Saturday.

    While yes it is quite fine to rush out to the package store already drunk at 11:30pm on Saturday night, what is the point in making this illegal on Sunday?

    Will a defender of the status quo please stand up and list some bullet point items of why it should remain this way?

  6. Old School Politics says:

    Way to go Governor Perdue! Glad you realize this NON-issue does not need to be made into a BIG issue. Go BLUE!!!

  7. Bull Moose says:

    I have to say that I think that the Governor’s comments were a littly hypocritical on this issue. It’s not a big deal to me personally, but I don’t like it when politicians think they know whats best for me on issues like this.

    I mean, for goodness sake, we don’t need a “nanny government”.

  8. Harry says:

    There are a lot of us Christian traditionalists in Georgia and, yes, we want to keep the Sabbath holy. That means no booze sales. Sorry if you don’t like it.

  9. Harry,
    I do not think like you and Sonny Purdue that Georgia needs to be dictated by militant Christian rhetoric. I am for any referendum to allow Georgia voters to vote on whether or not to get rid of the Sunday alcohol sales ban. I highly doubt that Sonny Purdue will really push opposition against a referendum on the blue laws.

  10. Let me tell you how it’s all going to go down. Sonny has made his position clear. If you’ve paid attention to his entire career in government, particularly the last few years as Governor, then you will know that his first position is never his final position. So, at the very least, he wants this to come up for a vote to see how popular it really is.

    Then, it will likely pass, maybe with some minor changes but more or less intact. Sonny is a lame duck, but Republican legislators who can raise significant funds from this bill (on both sides, depending on their politics/districts) will push the Governor to “let them vote”, as they still have to get re-elected, unlike him.

    After the bill passes, the Governor will have a public ceremony for the bill at some sort of museum, like the “Museum of Patriotism” or somewhere similar. He won’t call it a signing statement, because you see, he hasn’t made up his mind. He signed a bill restricting the freedom to smoke (I was in favor of this bill, by the way) at the museum of patriotism, so look for this clue: if the signing location is the Sweetwater Brewery, he’s probably going to veto it. If he signs it at MADD’s headquarters, he’ll probably pass it.

    Because let me tell you something about Sonny. There is nothing in this world that he likes more than lecturing people about how he is right and they are wrong. Hence vetoing the bill at a place they support it or vice versa.

    So in conclusion, everyone just settle down, let Sonny do his little dance and check his schedule to see if he’s got anything mysteriously booked in late April or May. I swear, this is getting too easy!

  11. Jace Walden says:

    There are a lot of us Christian traditionalists in Georgia and, yes, we want to keep the Sabbath holy. That means no booze sales. Sorry if you don’t like it.

    Harry, I want you to know that I disagree with you 100%. But with that being said, I have more respect for you than ANYBODY who supports the ban on Sunday sales and tries to pass it off as anything other than a religious argument. At least you have the balls to admit your trying to force a religious belief on everyone else…unlike most of the legislators and the governor who try so hard to make it look like they’re not wholly owned by the Christian Coalition, while blatantly pandering to them.

    So Harry, you and I disagree, but at least we can have a damn honest discussion now! 🙂

  12. yellowhammer says:

    Harry-

    If there are so many Christian traditionalists who are completely against Sunday sales, then you should have no problem with the legislation, since you all can come together at the polls and defeat all the heathens in the local referendums. This is a representative democracy isn’t it? Let thet people decide.

  13. Harry says:

    If you want a non pseudo-secular argument, consider that Sunday sales encourage Sunday drinking, which undermines Monday work ethic. It’s a nanny state argument, yes, but why be increasing efforts in other areas (tobacco, cellphones etc) while decreasing in this one.

  14. jsm says:

    Harry,

    Christian traditionalists should read their Bibles and understand that the Sabbath is not on Sunday. For a Christian, there is no particular day given in which to have a sabbath, which is defined as a “rest.”

    Furthermore, the Bible doesn’t say for government to make any day holy. It’s a personal thing. If Christian traditionalists would live their lives according to what they preach and quit trying to get government to require others to follow their beliefs, two things would happen: (1) There would be much less political fighting, (2) Christians would be much more respected.

    How about we Christians focus on living by our own stated beliefs and leading by example. I think this would do much more to keep people sober on Sunday, or any other day for that matter. Remember Constantine.

  15. yellowhammer says:

    JSM- You didn’t get the memo? Apparently we haven’t been doing so well on our own, so now all of us Christians will have our beliefs emailed to us by Sadie Fields. Should make things alot easier!

  16. Harry says:

    Good comments, but I disagree. It is not disrespectful to advocate for policies that reflect one’s own personal beliefs and preferences, whether or not people care to admit it to themselves.

  17. Jace Walden says:

    It’s a nanny state argument, yes, but why be increasing efforts in other areas (tobacco, cellphones etc) while decreasing in this one.

    That is the point. We shouldn’t be increasing efforts in these areas either. And just because our nanny legislators do want to increase efforts in these areas doesn’t mean we should let them get away with it.

    I also don’t buy the argument that Sunday sales encourages Sunday drinking. Monday sales doesn’t encourage Monday drinking, does it? It should be an issue of choice. If you choose to keep the Sabbath Day Holy, then that is your choice.

    Here’s a religious question for all: If the government takes away our power to choose whether or not we sin, then who is held accountable for our sins on judgement day? Is it our State Representative? If we have no choice, then why would we logically be held accountable?

  18. CHelf says:

    Argument about the Sabbath – as already stated the Sabbath is on Saturday. As for Monday work ethic – people drink on Sundays anyway. What does this have to do with changing work ethic? And what of the other business days of the week? Are we only concerned about Monday morning? Forget happy hour and the following morning any other day of the week?

    Harry, the point is that you are advocating forcing your moral values and decisions on the rest of the people of the state. You are telling everyone in this state they have to abide by your moral values. Last I checked, this was something the Founding Fathers were not too keen on with the whole separation of Anglican or Catholic domination of personal lives. If you want a Puritan society, set up one in an area that like-minded people can live in and do not force the rest of the people to have to live by your standards.

  19. Harry says:

    I appreciate that some of you are sincere libertarians, and I share that to a degree, but accept that it is a basic responsibility of government to “legislate marality” to some degree. My definition of morality includes doing everything to discourage consumption of alcohol.

    I also imagine that the convenience stores, food chains, and liquor lobby, are another force behind this effort. They certainly can and will press their own agenda.

  20. Jace Walden says:

    Like I said, I disagree with Harry, but at least he is man enough to come out with the truth about why he favors the Blue Laws…unlike Sonny and MANY MANY others…

  21. jsm says:

    Harry, I completely disagree that government’s responsibility is to legislate morality. In fact, legislating morality is IMPOSSIBLE. Morality comes from the heart.

    Government’s responsibility is to protect its citizens from foreign invaders and criminal harm.

    On this issue, DUI laws are government’s effort toward protecting citizens from criminal harm. I think DUI penalties should be greater, but we’re too busy arguing whether to keep everyone from buying beer at the store on Sunday. We need to kill the blue laws and address the real danger.

  22. Decaturguy says:

    If the Governor wanted to make this a “non issue” he would have kept his mouth shut about it. He’s creating a bigger issue by speaking out.

    What I want to know is why , as a legislator, did Sonny vote for the legislation before the Olympics that allowed restaurants to serve alcohol on Sundays, but opposed allowing people to purchase alcohol to consume in the privacy of their own homes on Sunday? Could it be because he is a hypocrite?

  23. DeacfromGA says:

    I guess if Sonny got away with not letting us vote ont the flag, he’ll get away with this.

    Btw Sonny, this is really a jerk move. Let us decide, you’re not our father.

  24. Sonny says “can’t do government really by referendum.” I say ” Governing by Referendum is the pinnacle of a free society” I guess Sonny Purdue has never studied democratic societies. I say “A leader who thinks they are the father of a state is actually a Dictator”. Sonny needs to read the US constitution and The Declaration of Independence, not Mein Kampf

  25. bowersville says:

    This is simply an easy way out. No member of the General Assembly need vote for this bill, it’s DOA in the Governor’s office. Since it continues to look worse for a this bill and a referendum, how about a nonbinding resolution? I’ve never been fond of a referendum anyway. Too much like mob rule. Why not just vote it up or down and the same with the county commissioners. This would give those on all sides the opportunity to re-elect or vote the bums out. Where are the “statesmen/women?

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