Don’t bother responding to Vic. He is a bag of wind that makes very little sense.

Can you name one country with a health care system as described above that has anywhere near as effective a system as we have. Don’t tell me about poor people not having access – its not true – and in our system the poor, uninsured have better coverage than the poor in Cuba, Canada etc. The existence of universal coverage doesn’t change the quality of care received.

Why is it perfectly reasonable to make that requirment? Shouldn’t I be able to make that decision as a free man in a free state?

You present as the proposition as an axiom when it is an anathema.

And — just for grins – ‘attachment of wages” is – in this context – synonymous with ‘garnishment’. The effect (some entity taking your wages before you decide what to do with them in order to pay an obligation that a government run organization has decided you owe) is the same.

It’s the same wording is used for payroll taxes, federal income tax and to pay child support.
To put it bluntly, you’re wrong.

And I don’t believe the government has any right to make individual prove that they have insurance coverage. It is an invasion of privacy, whether you like it or not.

I’m also no Boortz-libertarian but it is perfectly reasonable and unintrusive to require individuals to either prove that they have health insurance, or that they are financially sound, or require them to join a state approved plan.

Are you seriously that stupid? It’s posted in the thread and it’s in the damn bill under 33-62-15 (d) of the legislation, which you can read here.

But I’ll repost it for you:

(d) If, in any calendar year, an individual subject to the requirement in subsection (a) of this Code section fails to comply with said requirement, the commissioner of revenue shall establish an escrow account in the name of said individual and:
(1) Shall retain and deposit in said account all such funds as may be owed to said individual by the State of Georgia, including, but not limited to, any overpayment by said individual of any taxes imposed by the State of Georgia;
(2) Shall obtain an order for the attachment of the wages of said individual to satisfy the requirements of this Code section; or
(3) Both paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection.

An attachment of wages is garnishment.

2. Where in SB 28 does it ever say anything about wage garnishment? NOWHERE! You have completely made that up Jason.

That are serious problems. It’s not socialized medicine, but as Tanner said over at Cato @ Liberty:

Supporters of Governor Romney’s Massachusetts health care plan scoffed when I warned that it “opens the door to widespread regulation of the health care industry and political interference in personal health care decisions. The result will be a slow but steady spiral downward toward a government-run, national health care system.” Recent events, alas, suggest that I was right.

You are either trying to pull the wool over our eyes or you can’t read.

1 out of 6 adults in Georgia are uninsured. SB 28 will allow the Commissioner of Insurance to develop consumer driven health insurance plans. This will create more affordable and flexible plans.

This is exactly the type of creative, consumer driven solution that Michael Tanner at the Cato Institute adovcates!

“Introduce market mechanisms to give consumers more control over and responsibility for their health care decisions. In doing so, we can actually increase coverage and reduce the free-rider problem…And, to the degree that health care and health insurance become less expensive, more low-income people can be brought into the system.” -M. Tanner

There is no question that our state needs comprehensive health insurance reform. You guys have seriously missed the entire concept here. This is not socialized medicine, it is not going to create a new, onerous bureaucracy.

What will inevitably lead to national socialized healthcare is if we are to allow the broken system to limp on.

Visit Newt Gingrich’s website
http://www.healthtransformation.net

1/13/07
Dear Jason,

We’re both going to learn something from this Health Care Insurance Debate if we have the attention span and stamina to prioritize Health Care for Georgia‘s Families, so ask Erick to please not start censoring debate on the issue again. He claims to want this forum to be for all Georgians, time will tell his sincerity.

You can judge a “politics for politics sake” politico by the point they stop addressing an issue more than you can by what they say on the campaign trail. As a Libertarian, I’m sure you’ve observed that.

A fortune cookie once said, “Don’t’ seek so much to find the answer as much as to understand the question better.” If his parables were any indication, I’m pretty sure that was Jesus’ philosophy also. So, I guess you and I are progressively understanding the questions here. BTW, good work on Georgia Legislative Watch, hope you can sell some advertising.
http://www.georgialegislativewatch.com/

I know that this would go against your devout trust in and Pledge of Allegiance to the good will and benevolence of Corporate America; but do you really think Judson Hill & Newt Gingrich came up with this on their own? Wasn’t Judson one of Ralph Reed’s Attorneys, not too long ago? Isn’t Senator Hill a Merger & Acquisition Attorney?

We’ve got a lot more dots to connect before we know the real story, so please don’t quit before the essence is revealed. Take a look at the number one donors to Judson’s State Senate Campaign and ask if there may be an undercurrent at work here.
http://www.vote-smart.org/finance.php?can_id=MGA98218&fec_id=

Which Health Care Insurance Conglomerates do you think will benefit most from this? Do you really think they will self regulate? Please read through the historical financial news on Wellpoint & United Health Care and study the Kaiser Family Foundation Website before you answer that.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=WLP
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=UNH
http://www.kff.org

With a government administered, single payor health care system, do you think the voting citizens would allow the administrators to take hundreds of millions in “personal compensation” out of the system before they start paying claims to Doctors and Hospitals? That’s what Wellpoint Chair Larry Glascock and ex Chair Leonard Schaeffer have been doing for years. Not to mention United Health Care’s recent stock option faux pas.

Scroll through the stock option and merger & acquisition history of WLP and UNH on the financial links and at the Securities and Exchange Commmission site. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=WLP
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=WLP
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/it?s=UNH
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/mh?s=UNH

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=Wellpoint&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=United+Health+&CIK=&filenum=&State=&SIC=&owner=include&action=getcompany

Do an Open Record’s Request for the 2004 Wellpoint/Anthem Merger hearing with Insurance Commissioner Oxendine and ask him why he stopped and temporarily reversed his position, which originally supported the 18 billion dollar merger; after I helped reveal that California had gotten fallout concession from Wellpoint and Anthem. Ask how the resulting Telemedicine settlement for Rural Health Care Hospitals in Georgia is being administered and overseen by Mr. Oxendine, or to whomever he delegated the task.

What’s so hard about standing up and saying you are for transparent, fair, equitable and accessible health care for all Georgia Families? Almost everyone with a convenient-memory conscience said it on the campaign trail. Some industries should be sacred. I’ll salute your making all the money you want selling advertising on blogs or baseball bats but lets maybe draw the line at playing “Wall Street Merger & Acquisition Games” with the health of Georgia Families.

If you want to see your health insurance claims continue to escalate and be processed in India and South America and see Georgian‘s health care Insurance dollars go to a Corporation based in Indianapolis, Indiana or Minnetonka, Minnesota, then stand firm in your convictions and don’t flip flop, even in the face of new evidence. According to the Manly mindset here on Peach Pundit, it’s not macho or kosher to change ones mind, even when enlightened with new truths or a broader understanding. So I guess Jesus was being a flip flopper when he switched from Judaism to Christianity?

The Georgia Ethics commission hasn’t given itself the right to investigate Conflicts of Interest, so theoretically, our Georgia Legislators have the green light to trade as many favors with the Insurance Lobby that they want and there will be no consequences from Cousin Sonny‘s, arbitrarily, self regulating ethics department.

Per your statement: “Deregulation has not and will not create a monopoly. If anything it creates more opportunity for competition.” I ask, Why did David Shafer feel it necessary to introduce SB509 and Tom Knox do the same with HB 1517? And how does creating a favorable environment for one or two, internationally-financed insurers to buy up all the smaller insurers create a healthy market place? Delta is ready, why isn’t Georgia?

I know you are a free thinking, independent kind of guy and I respect that.
But figuratively speaking, don’t wait til they are standing at your doorstep, after they burn everyone else’s house down and ask others for help, we might already be in heaven with Jesus by then.

Have a good weekend bro,

VictoratGaImproper
http://www.macon-bibb.com/GONZO

do you guys really believe Judson came up with that plan on his own?

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070108/clm094.html?.v=13

So here comes your free market monopoly that you have prayed so hard for.

Campaigning they always talk about less government, free markets/free enterprise.

Elected: big government intrusion and big government solutions.

Judson ought to be embarrassed.