Question for the Democrats

What’s up with choosing the State Party Chairman to replace Bobby Kahn? I didn’t think I had missed that one. Who is it going to be? Any ideas or thoughts?


  1. commonsense says:

    Considering that nearly half (48% in the Nov 7th exit poll) of Georgians label themselves conservative let’s just pray to god that the new chair doesn’t think the answer is “grass-roots.

  2. DougieFresh says:


    Could you clairfy your statement? It seems you are making the opposite conclusion of what your facts demonstrate.

    Generally a 48% rate of self identified Conservatives would mean only about 30 percent or less self identified Liberals, with the rest being “moderates” That means the Republicans would only have to take about 1/10th of the moderates for a majority, while the Dems would have to take 9/10.

    It would seem the Republicans would have an overwelming advantage with those numbers.

  3. one big D says:

    I nominate Andre for DPG Chair. He’s the coolest . and he plays nicely across the aisle with Republicans. Maybe he will blog the DPG strategy when the state committee members boot him to the curb after serving only 40 days as DPG Chair.

  4. commonsense says:

    I was wrong, it’s 42% Conservative

    Liberals make up 13%

    My point is this. Playing to the base will not win in Georgia, period. For Democrats to win they have to appeal to self-described conservatives. This is what Marshall and Barrow did. Look at Perdue’s numbers in their districts there and look at Barrow/Marshal. The congressmen were able to convince conservative Republicans to vote for them.

    Competent pragmatism is the only message that has a chance in Georgia for Democrats.

  5. benevolus says:

    Hey commonsense- how exactly are things going to start to “break our way” ? Is it a sort of universal ebb-and-flo kind of thing? Will the Repubs eventually screw up so much that the Dems just have to “be there”?

    How would anybody even know that the Repubs were screwing up if the Dems were supporting the same stuff?

  6. commonsense says:

    Being conservative and supporting the same things as the GOP aren’t the same thing.

    SB5 and HB218 those weren’t conservative bills. Same with private cities. Yet all were pushed by the leadership. Fully funding schools (QBE), that’s not a liberal or conservative thing.

    Democrats aren’t going to win by campaigning on lifting restrictions on abortion and creating more gun control. Democrats aren’t going to win by spending more on GOTV since our base won’t get us even close to the 50 plus 1 mark. That’s not to say if we get power back we’d govern the same. Anti-abortion bills would get bottled up in committee. More money in the budget would go to edu and healthcare. But those aren’t winning campaign issues.

    A Democrat running state wide needs to focus on healthcare and education. But enviro, abortion, and the other issues that motivate the DFA crowd don’t work.

  7. commonsense says:

    to clarify the budget isn’t a winning campaign issue, education and healthcare are. I realize the way I wrote that seems to directly contridict myself

  8. jonf says:

    commonsense, everything you have written is a contridiction. I’m sure Mark Taylor will take comfort in your winning formula, since he ran ran as a GOP-lite candidate with an emphasis on education and health care.

    Are you even paying attention?

  9. benevolus says:

    My issue with that is that it seems to assume that Dems cannot affect the opinion of the electorate. All they can do is respond. I humbly suggest that Dems (or any interested party) CAN affect the debate.

    Anyone who wants to get their point of view across has to sell it. If you choose not to sell it, you default to your competitor. Identifying the issues that your competitor has gained an advantage on and trying to hop a ride onto them… it’s just not a long term strategy.

    What is wrong with “the base”? If it is true that most Georgians currently do not see the value in supporting public education, universal healthcare, and equal justice for all, isn’t it somebody’s job to try to convince them that these are worthwhile ideas?

    You can try to win elections today by appealing to the current “fad”, but you will be making it harder for future candidates to distinguish themselves as principled leaders.

  10. ColinATL says:

    Here’s what I want in a state party chair (as opposed to a Dem candidate):

    – I want someone who can put a public face on the party and add some humor to the political discussion. Even though DPG chair isn’t normally a public face, I think the position could be made to be that way. This would humanize and familiarize Georgians with the Dem organization.

    – I want someone who will keep the party modern and keep us on the cutting edge with the best data so that all candidates can target voters to the best of their abilities.

    – I want someone who will energize the party in all those dozens of counties where we have NO machinery in place. I know it’s a bad name to use in this state, but despite his flaws, I believe that Howard Dean’s 50-state strategy could be duplicated for all 159 counties in Georgia. It won’t give us immediate returns, but it will reinvigorate the party in the long term. And therefore …

    – I want someone who can raise a ton of money to fund a 159-county strategy.

    Am I asking too much? 🙂

  11. rightofcenter says:

    Judging from his occasional columns in the AJC, it looks like Orr is Bobby Kahn-lite. So, by all means, put him in that job.

  12. atlantaman says:

    “Even though DPG chair isn’t normally a public face, I think the position could be made to be that way.”

    I think the DPG Chair has the potential to be a public face due to the lack of elected public faces in the GA Dem Party. It’s could be similar to 10 years ago when the GOP Chair was more of a public face for the Republican point-of-view. Without a Governor and minorities in both houses, the press needed GOP folks to interview.

  13. Bill Arp says:

    Whoever takes the place could do a better job than Kahn …..blindfolded…..he single handedly buried the party.

    1. Ran Barnes Campaign – lost and incumbent race and his skanky policy elected the Republicians to Governor for the first time in 134 years.

    2. The Georgia Senate was so sick of Kahn’s style that 4 (yes 4) senators swiched from Democrat to Republican and gave the Republicians control of the Senate for the first time ever!

    3. Kahn was given a 104-76 Democratic lead in the House and got crushed…now the house is 104-76 Republican. First time ever the house went Republican.

    4. 2006 elections. Kahn picks up no seats either the House or the Senate. He loses the Lt. Governor (60-40) and the Secretary of State (60-40) to the republicians. Yes this was the first time in Georgia history that Republicians held these seats as well.

    I ask the rational human in Georgia….what has Kahn done as head of the party but embarass his former allies. People are running away from him in Georgia and I bet McKinney could would be him in a statewide election.

    Here is a message for Kahn…..get a life….get out of politics, you are not good at it. You are what sports fans call a loser at best…oh yeah, I forgot, he also lost Barnes original bid for Governor…loser..


  14. Bill Simon says:

    Bill Arp,

    Umm…your comment regarding why 4 state senators switched might be quite incorrect. I think Calvin Smyre was still DPG chairman when we came within 4 seats of the Senate in 2002. The election of Sonny as Governor and some major promises to the 4 caused them to switch to the GOP.

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