Vote or Die. Vote or Die.

October 25, 2006 13:22 pm

by Erick · 84 comments

UPDATE:I’m putting this back up top. Insider Advantage and others are linking to this post and lots of people are wondering where we got the piece. A trusted source subscribes to Miss Angela’s email list. This flyer went out over that email list this morning.

Wow! The Democrats have now fired off the first substantial use of the race card this year. This flyer, click it for a larger view, came to us from a source who says former Secretary of State candidate Angela Moore is behind these.

The flyer shows civil rights activists being beaten down in the street and underneath shows a picture of Governor Sonny Perdue signing the voter ID law.

There you have it folks. That’s what the Democrats are going to be using this year to get people to vote. No, they aren’t saying go vote for Mark Taylor. Notice that.

They have adopted, in effect, Miss. Angela’s old campaign song, “Vote for Miss. Angela,

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ugavi October 25, 2006 at 8:49 am

Amazing. Chrishardcore and Maddog you must be proud.

Jeff Emanuel October 25, 2006 at 8:51 am

Under the pictures: “Don’t let the BUSH/PERDUE Republican mafia TAKE AWAY YOUR VOTE!”

Subtle.

John Konop October 25, 2006 at 8:53 am

This is why so many Americans like me are not Democrats. The concept of if you are for voter I.D. reform, immigration reform, against Affirmative Action…. That somehow you are a racist does harm to real victims of racism. Also it eliminates any intelligent conversation on the issue.

That is why when I hear pro illegal immigration Republicans use the race card I just cannot believe my ears.

The truth is Blacks have been the biggest victims of illegal immigrants voting in California. The L.A. times reported that estimates as high as 20% of voters in the Mayors race in L.A. were illegal immigrants.

The issue is not about race. Should we have a higher requirement to get at Blockbuster video than a vote?

TJBradley October 25, 2006 at 9:27 am

Angela Moore is a complete joke. Didn’t her campaign literature say that she supports the disenfranchisement of voters?

The Dems must be so proud to have her in their flock. But, maybe she’ll go back to practicing medecine. After all, she claims to have an MD from Johns Hopkins. (A GED ends with D, so the two degrees must be similar.)

I hope she runs for state-wide office again. If so, the Dems have a bright future.

RuralDem October 25, 2006 at 9:33 am

Terrible. It’s sad that someone within the party has decided to play this card yet again.

“The Democrats have now fired off the first substantial use of the race card this year.”

So is it the DPG or Angela Moore herself? I think it’s unfair to say “The Democrats did it” when there’s no proof of that. That statement just insinuates that the Party itself is behind it. If the DPG did approve of that then they’ve made a huge mistake.

Fogle October 25, 2006 at 9:41 am

Speechless. This is so outrageous that even Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton would probably shy away.

I doubt this is the pre-election Democratic fumble we’ve all been waiting for, but it’s a good start.

ugavi October 25, 2006 at 9:42 am

Ruraldem,
Is that like all republicans are bad because of Foley. The Dem’s have no problem playing that card.

RuralDem October 25, 2006 at 9:45 am

ugavi – Both sides play that card. It’s unfortunate.

ugavi October 25, 2006 at 9:50 am

Ruraldem,
We can agree on that.

mercergirl October 25, 2006 at 9:51 am

This is so sad, when will playing the race card end?

Mike October 25, 2006 at 10:05 am

Wasn’t “Mrs. Angela” the one that had that kick ass campaign rap song? What a class act.

Fogle October 25, 2006 at 10:22 am

Damn straight Mike… Vote-4-Angela… dawg!

Fogle October 25, 2006 at 10:26 am

As great as that rap song was (and it was some mad whack fire straight out the hood yo… the lyrics are so damn inspiring) it doesn’t hold a candle to this.

Once in a generation, a candidate comes along that truly touches hearts and inspires minds… and Angela Moore was sure as hell NOT that candidate.

Mike October 25, 2006 at 10:37 am

Just damn. H. Dean looked like he had a baseball bat up his rear. Even Mr. Peanut looked embaressed to have his picture taken with her. Westsiiiiiiiiiiid!!!!!!

Mike October 25, 2006 at 10:41 am

Sorry for the sp, sometimes I get my esses and asses confused. It should have been embarrassed.

Fogle October 25, 2006 at 10:43 am

If, on some far-out Jesse Jackson-style pipe dream, Moore had made it through the primary and won the SoS general, do you think she would have plastered her name and picture on the SoS website more than Cathy Cox?

Andre in Atlanta October 25, 2006 at 11:11 am

Alright, just to set the record straight. nowhere on that piece of literature does it say “paid for by the Democratic Party of Georgia”.

Hell, it’s not even union printed.

This piece was put together by someone independent of the Party and that’s that.

ugavi October 25, 2006 at 11:15 am

So why is Miss Angela sending this out?

Andre in Atlanta October 25, 2006 at 11:24 am

I don’t know.

Why is Bill Bolton running for President?

Ask him and ask her.

ugavi October 25, 2006 at 11:26 am

So Andre, you think it looks good for a former Democratic SoS candidate to be sending this piece out?

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 11:53 am

ugavi,

The question is, why do you have a problem with a black women remembering what it was like in Georgia when Democrats ran the state?

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 11:56 am

In keeping with the theme, blame the current Democrats for racism in the South. Blame every public discussion of racism in America on Democrats.

But, and this is not a rhetorical question, how can any white person blame a black women for honoring the Civil Rights movement?

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 12:04 pm

Why is the mere exercise of Free Speech so violently opposed when the topic is Racism?

Miss Angela has a right to her personal point of view. To her choice of music. To her choice of organized or unorganized faith.

But, she can’t speak out about her point of view on voting rights without being blamed as a racist by ‘white people?’

Those who hold up this mailing and label the Democrats as racists do not honor the legacy of King and other peaceful activists.

Miss Angelas mailing shows racism under Democrats in the South and the responses on this thread show the status of racism today in the South.

Good job, guys.

RuralDem October 25, 2006 at 12:07 pm

Mad Dog,

Have you met her and spoken to her personally?

Exactly.

John Konop October 25, 2006 at 12:29 pm

Mad Dog

You sound like the Republicans who defend the Ford ad in Ten.

The next thing I know you will be giving me the
definition of “is”

Both Parties need to stay away from garbage like this bottom line.

memberg October 25, 2006 at 12:29 pm

If you’re going to play the race card, there’s no point in being subtle.

In other words, Republicans have no moral highground just because their anti-Latino stance is veiled in immigration legislation.

RandyMiller October 25, 2006 at 12:34 pm

Yes, this flyer is playing the race card, big time. And as far as rascist goes, I noticed Jesse Jackson was at Taylor’s fund raiser last night downtown. Also acording to AJC Al Sharpton is in town, any word if he was there too?

Shaprton and Jackson, besides their clever use of crooked trial attorneys to extort money, are very good at driving wedges imbetween the racial progress that’s taken place in the last 3 decades. Whenever they see racial equality taking place they deem it a threat to them and the democratic party.

In a very similar way, it’s how the dems have used the gay vote. “Hey, you’re a minority, you can’t possibly go anywhere without our help, if the republicans win you’ll go to extermination camps, vote democrat!” This is how people like Taylor, Jackson, and Sharpton keep their slimy hands on voters, folks. By making them feel inferior, and saying they’re the only ones that “care” about you. Funny thing, that “care” seems to only popup every 4 years!

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 12:51 pm

Honestly, I felt a good amount of fear before revisiting this thread.

I expected a huge personal backlash. I don’t see a huge negative reaction.

I’ll even say Randy Miller made points that should be in a thread that discusses racism and alleges that political parties use emotionally charged issues to win or lose elections.

More, please.

RuralDem October 25, 2006 at 1:02 pm

Randy Miller – You need to run against Mark Taylor for something one day. You are the epitome of the “anti-candidate”. Not because you guys have differing views, it’s just you have some personal vendetta against Taylor. Seriously, Mark Taylor could say the sky is blue and you’d go off on a tangent about how it’s all spin and his Dad is behind it or some mess.

Oz October 25, 2006 at 1:34 pm

Okay. I’ll vote. Just stop threatening me.

:-)

The Busdriver October 25, 2006 at 1:36 pm
ugavi October 25, 2006 at 1:39 pm

Ruraldem,
Mark Taylor is finished after 11/7/2006

jsm October 25, 2006 at 1:54 pm

Mad Dog,

The right to free speech does not alleviate one of the response to and/or consequence of that speech.

ugavi October 25, 2006 at 1:57 pm

Maddog,
Nice spin. Did’t work, but nice spin.

atlantaman October 25, 2006 at 2:36 pm

Poor Miss Angela still had no clue as to why she lost. The average Georgia voter, who probably wasn’t born or didn’t live in here during the Civil Rights Movement, is sick and tired of every political debate being tied to racism, slavery or the beatings during the Movement.

The shame of it is that it belittles the importance of the Civil Rights Movement and the bravery of those involved when analogies are sighted in such a careless and pandering manner.

RandyMiller October 25, 2006 at 2:41 pm

RuralDem:
Trust me, I used to think OK of Taylor. But it wasn’t until this race that I now see what a severe opportunist he’s become. It’s good Cathy Cox ran against him because she enlightened us to some realities about Taylor that I and obviously many other citizens are not too cool with. That is what I’m against, not the individual, there is a difference! Several dems are amongst my heroes! Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, Harry S. Truman, and JFK were men of great character and wisdom that lead our nation well. I like them as I do Abe Lincoln, Douglas McArthur (Hell Yeah!!!), IKE, and Ronald Reagan. So it’s not some “V for vendetta,” as you assume, it’s the individuals political character. Much as I take it you think of Perdue

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 2:50 pm

jsm,

I never said that it did. Nor, do I think you are trying to say that I said I did. What you are saying, no one that speaks can expect to hold the stage forever.

What I’m saying, throwing garbage on the stage isn’t free speech. It’s not illegal and some think it is a right (from buying a ticket to get in the theatre).

I agree with atlantaman that those in the Civil Rights movement exhibited extraordinary courage. Atlantaman should have included lynchings and bombings during the Movement.

And, let the record show, I was old enough and wasn’t in Georgia, but I was in Mississippi and Tennessee. But, if I wasn’t old enough or geographically too challenged, would that excuse ignorance?

RuralDem October 25, 2006 at 2:54 pm

Randy Miller,

I stand corrected then. I’ll also admit that I tend to go off on a tanget about Perdue as well similar to how you go off on Taylor. :)

RandyMiller October 25, 2006 at 3:00 pm

History 1001
Q: From what political party in the American southeast did the KKK originate?
A: Democrat
Q: What American political party was in overwhelming power in the southeast during all the lynchings and church bombing?
A: Democrat
Q: Of all U.S. congressmen now in service, what party does one belong to (now a USsenator) that once was a memebr of the KKK?
A: Democract

Well, maddog, here’s your -more, please-. Now thank me!

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 3:01 pm

Randy.

Thank you.

I’m glad we agree on racism not belonging to one party.

atlantaman October 25, 2006 at 3:06 pm

“But, if I wasn’t old enough or geographically too challenged, would that excuse ignorance?”

It definitley doesn’t excuse ignorance, but people who had nothing to do with the biggots and racists of another generation are sick of being compared to Bull Conner.

I don’t think anyone is disputing Miss Angela’s right to free speech, but choosing to make an analogy with something as sacred as the Civil Rights Movement does not give you a shield of infallibility.

leftrightcombo October 25, 2006 at 3:09 pm

Sooner rather than later the shock value of this is going to cost the Democrats. Maybe someone should save this post card and send it out again during the Democratic primary.

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 3:15 pm

Atlantaman,

It shouldn’t give one a shield of infallibility.

I would agree that the causal series is illogical. But, always a but with me, when or how do we date the end of racism?

1964? 1965 and the Voting Rights Act? 1972 and integration of Indiana schools? (Yeah, the north had segregation)

When did the last sign get taken down, No blacks need apply?

And, back to that causal series, I’m so sick and tired of Southerners saying, “I learned all my values from my family.” If that family had racist KKK leaders, doesn’t that mean they learned racist values? Doesn’t that mean those family values are still being handed down?

And, and I always have an and, if Cobb County is still fighting for creationism, is the South all that changed?

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 3:18 pm

HEY John Konop!

I almost missed that.

“The next thing I know you will be giving me the
definition of ‘is’”…

It’s a verb, John. Does that help you out any?

RandyMiller October 25, 2006 at 3:29 pm

Maddog:
Yes, unfortunately racism has an ugly history within both our parties. And as ugly as that ugly is, just that we have learned and continue to learn is what’s paramount at this stage of our human existence. And what a great day it’ll be when our kids, grandkids, children of our significant others (I want to be inclusive!) can tell their kids & grandkids; “yes, racism was once a problem here in America.

Mad Dog October 25, 2006 at 3:40 pm

Well said, Randy.

atlantaman October 25, 2006 at 4:00 pm

I don’t think we can ever eliminate racisim, but we can eliminate being partioned into groups based on something as arbitrary as the shade of my skin.

Before some folks start howling, I know there is a history in this country where skin shade mattered but I feel most have moved beyond it. The last time I was approached by a Census taker I was asked, “What are you?” and I told her I was an American. She asked two or three times, but I told her I wasn’t a geneologist and couldn’t definitively tell her whether I had Black, Indian, or Asian blood in me. I’m sure they have already rehearsed what to do with problem people like me and they probably just give their estimation at some point (so the white-guy box was checked), but I’m sick of being placed into groups for government planning purposes.

John Konop October 25, 2006 at 5:08 pm

Mad Dog

LOL

mercergirl October 25, 2006 at 5:28 pm

good for you, atlantaman.

emily October 25, 2006 at 6:36 pm

To think that Republicans are not using the race card with immigration, especially when related to the voter ID stuff, is ridiculous. Anybody stop to think that Miss Angela might be freakin right?! There is, in fact, rampant voter suppression. It is most rampant in African American communities. I think the piece works because it’s true. At least I hope it works.

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