Sore Loser?

Tommy Irvin tomorrow will hold a press conference to announce his endorsement by Bob Greer, who ran and lost in the Republican primary.

25 comments

  1. Warrior says:

    Sad thing and makes a good man look like a sore loser. It also kills any future race for him. Gary Black would make a good Ag Commissioner. Greer should just go home.

  2. John Konop says:

    I saw Bob debate multiple times and for anyone to argue that he did not know the issues about agricultures would be just wrong. As I said in the past all the candidates did an excellent job. I thought any of the candidates would do a great job.

    As far as Bob and his family they all showed tremendous class during the campaign. I would hope this post does become take a shot at Bob. I am sure many others after meeting Bob walk away with respect and admiration like I did.

  3. Demonbeck says:

    John,

    They may have walked away with admiration and respect after meeting him, but they probably lost it after this.

    This smacks of hurt pride and a lack of humility.

  4. atlantaman says:

    Bob did show a lot of class on the campaign trail, but so did Gary. I felt like both of them were good men who had a lot of knowledge on Agriculture issues. As far as Gary is concerned, I don’t believe anyone can dispute his knowledge of the industry. I don’t think Bob is really all that relevant, he finished a distant 3rd and almost 4th in the Ag Primary. His endoresment of Kemp was hardly noticeable. I do find it ironic that one of his major campaign themes is that he was the only lifelong Republican in the Ag race and yet in the year 2006 he has no problem endorsing a Lester Maddox appointee. I don’t see how else you can classify this other then sore loser.

  5. John Konop says:

    atlantaman,

    I thought what you said was fair as usual. My only point is sometimes people will go beyound comments like yours. And Bob is a good guy.

  6. Demonbeck says:

    John,

    In a race where every candidate dug against the eventual winner with phrases like “lifelong Republican” and innuendo about their opponent being a closet Democrat, I don’t have to hear what Greer has to say to know he isn’t even a partisan hack. He’s merely a hack.

  7. RuralDem says:

    “now endorsing the incumbent he was running to unseat, and turning his back on the party in which he ran.

    Paging Jason Pye: tiresome party stuff like this is why, again, I go by ideology first, party distant second. Ugh. ”

    So, you criticize him for turning his back on the party and then talk about how you put party a distant second? Which is it?

    Bob Greer went with his beliefs instead of toeing the party line. He thought he could do a better job than Irvin but lost the primary, he thought could do a better job than the other candidates and lost the primary. The one guy who he liked lost the runoff and now he’s supporting who he thinks can do a better job out of the two candidates.

    For somone who puts party a distant second, what’s wrong with that?

  8. RuralDem says:

    “I do find it ironic that one of his major campaign themes is that he was the only lifelong Republican in the Ag race and yet in the year 2006 he has no problem endorsing a Lester Maddox appointee.”

    Maybe he’s done with running for office and can now look past the party line and support whoever he wants.

  9. foray says:

    Greer – definatley a sore loser, he has never liked Gary Black- t0ld me during the primary that “Tommy Irvin” told him that Gary was a liberal special interest lobbyist . . . there is your connection.

    Bob ran at the pleading of the Pet Industry in 1998- Tommy probably told Bob he would announce some new initiative in this area for his endorsement.

    This won’t hurt Gary a bit- Bob couldn’t arrange a single fundraiser/ meet and greet during his own campaign, he has no base to speak of.

  10. John Konop says:

    foray,

    If it is a tight race Bob would not need to swing that many votes ? Do you know the polling numbers ? I never met Irvin but I heard he is a good speaker.

  11. Groseclose says:

    John, I am not intimate with either of the campaigns, but these are my lay person’s, who happens to know something about the agricultural industry, observations. I only have time to lay out a few of the differences between Tommy and Gary. So, try these on for size.

    1) While Tommy Irvin was supporting liberals like Al Gore and John Kerry, Gary Black was working to elect George W. Bush, Sonny Perdue, and Saxby Chambliss!
    2) While Tommy Irvin seems obsessed with only opening the Cuba market, Gary Black lead an organization that advocated for responsible participation in all of the World’s markets.
    3) While Tommy Irvin allowed the Department of Agriculture’s website capabilities to slip into an embarrassingly dismal state, Gary Black worked with FSA to increase customer service through technology and announced a plan that will revamp the GADOA technological services for its customer.
    4) While Tommy Irvin was cutting the Dog Sterilization Fund, Gary Black was working to gain the support and respect of the Companion Animal Community.

    Bob Greer’s announcement is a non-story. Frankly, I wonder what Tommy thinks he can gain from Greer. I hope to read Greer’s attempt to rationalize this unreasonable, spineless maneuver. John, frankly, I think Greer deserves pretty much all the criticism (as long as it is not a personal attack) this site can provide.

  12. Big Mack says:

    All of the above comments are mostly correct and appropriate. I must be the only old sob that comments here. In the old days, this would have been worth about $10,000.00. These days, this endorsement is probably worth about $50,000.00. I saw TI and Bob with there heads together at a barbecue before the primary and figured they were putting something together. Politics never changes. Only the prices go up. It will never show up on TI’s expenditure declaration either.

  13. foray says:

    No polling- while the content of Tommy’s talk might be good- he is hard to understand up close or far away. I have known him for 25 years and his health is definatley taking a toll.

    When I saw him in June it was the first time I’d seen him out of black boots and in diabetic shoes

    Over the years he has also refused to be driven around- this summer he finally accepted a driver.

    TI was left behind a generation ago

  14. Jason Pye says:

    Paging Jason Pye: tiresome party stuff like this is why, again, I go by ideology first, party distant second. Ugh.
    Woah, this isn’t about me, man.

  15. waterboy says:

    Gary Black = strong future for agriculture and consumer services
    Tommy Irvin = a time capsule on Democrat politics….nothing more.

    I think it is great Greer has endorsed old Tommy! Greer has a great track record of picking candidates – himself (2002 & 2006) and Kemp (2006)….let’s add Irvin to the loser roster!

    Greer and Irvin both need to go home. That will be accomplished in just a few short weeks.

  16. Warrior says:

    I don’t care how knowledgable Greer is about agriculture. He’s a dumbass when it comes to politics.

  17. atlantaman says:

    I think some of you folks are giving Greer way too much credit when you speak of his supporting candidates as if it were a matter of principle versus party or simply supporting the best man for the job. Here is what Greer said about Brian Kemp:

    “He’s a good young man, but, you know, in this race, he really doesn’t have a clue.

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