Comments on: Barrow v. Burns debate coverage. http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/ Fresh Political Pickins From The Peach State Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:32:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Decaturguy http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29899 Decaturguy Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:58:06 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29899 I can agree with that. I can agree with that.

]]> By: atlantaman http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29883 atlantaman Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:13:46 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29883 I never thought it was a solidly Republican distirct, but was unaware of the numbers you just gave. I'm more inclined to agree with you now, but still don't believe there would be that high level of anti-Bush intensity of say an major urban city or Northern district. I never thought it was a solidly Republican distirct, but was unaware of the numbers you just gave. I’m more inclined to agree with you now, but still don’t believe there would be that high level of anti-Bush intensity of say an major urban city or Northern district.

]]> By: Decaturguy http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29853 Decaturguy Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:47:36 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29853 Atlantaman, If you consider the new redrawing of the district, Bush would have got 48% in 2000 and 50.4% in 2004 had the current lines been drawn the way there are now, then. Sonny Perdue would have got 46% and Saxby Chambliss would have got 44% in the district with the redrawn lines in 2002. So, this is not a solidly Republican district. It is 40% African American. Bush was much more popular in 2004 than he is now. I don't think Barrow would lose anything by trying to associate Burns with Bush and portraying himself as independent of him. But because Barrow is afraid of his own shadow, he will probably not. Atlantaman,

If you consider the new redrawing of the district, Bush would have got 48% in 2000 and 50.4% in 2004 had the current lines been drawn the way there are now, then.

Sonny Perdue would have got 46% and Saxby Chambliss would have got 44% in the district with the redrawn lines in 2002.

So, this is not a solidly Republican district. It is 40% African American.

Bush was much more popular in 2004 than he is now. I don’t think Barrow would lose anything by trying to associate Burns with Bush and portraying himself as independent of him.

But because Barrow is afraid of his own shadow, he will probably not.

]]> By: atlantaman http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29838 atlantaman Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:27:23 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29838 "My opponent would be an rubber stamp for President Bush. He will owe him" While you probably hate Bush, in Barrow's district having Bush come in and raise money for you is not necessarily a negative. It might not be the huge positive it once was, but even if it's a wash issue there is no point in Barrow wasting any free press or paid advertising on it. “My opponent would be an rubber stamp for President Bush. He will owe him”

While you probably hate Bush, in Barrow’s district having Bush come in and raise money for you is not necessarily a negative. It might not be the huge positive it once was, but even if it’s a wash issue there is no point in Barrow wasting any free press or paid advertising on it.

]]> By: atlantaman http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29837 atlantaman Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:23:14 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29837 "People don’t generally think of Congress as a whole when they vote but rather about their individual congressman." I agree this occurs most of the time, but there are occurences when the public nationalizes the Congressional elections. Some of these instances have been: Democrat landslide during Roosevelt's implementation of the New Deal, Democrat landslide after Watergate, Republican landslide during Contract with America, and folks are talking about a Democrat landslide becuase of Bush's poor approval rating (personally I hope this will not be the case). The irony is in Georgia Barrow has to sidestep the whole Pelosi Democrat taking control of the House, but in other more moderate/liberal parts of the country the Dems are playing that issue up. In Republican Chrisopher Shays (a fairly Liberal Republican) Connecticut district that's the main reason the Dems are giving to vote against him, so the Dems can take control of the House and stand-up to Bush. “People don’t generally think of Congress as a whole when they vote but rather about their individual congressman.”

I agree this occurs most of the time, but there are occurences when the public nationalizes the Congressional elections. Some of these instances have been: Democrat landslide during Roosevelt’s implementation of the New Deal, Democrat landslide after Watergate, Republican landslide during Contract with America, and folks are talking about a Democrat landslide becuase of Bush’s poor approval rating (personally I hope this will not be the case).

The irony is in Georgia Barrow has to sidestep the whole Pelosi Democrat taking control of the House, but in other more moderate/liberal parts of the country the Dems are playing that issue up. In Republican Chrisopher Shays (a fairly Liberal Republican) Connecticut district that’s the main reason the Dems are giving to vote against him, so the Dems can take control of the House and stand-up to Bush.

]]> By: Decaturguy http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29633 Decaturguy Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:55:32 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29633 Then amend my statement to say: “My opponent would be an rubber stamp for President Bush. He will owe him, particularly since he will host a fundraiser for him next week. On the other hand, I will continue to be an independent voice, making decisions based on what is best for this district. Then amend my statement to say:

“My opponent would be an rubber stamp for President Bush. He will owe him, particularly since he will host a fundraiser for him next week. On the other hand, I will continue to be an independent voice, making decisions based on what is best for this district.

]]> By: ugavi http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29621 ugavi Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:55:56 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29621 The President is flying in on 9/7 for Max. The President is flying in on 9/7 for Max.

]]> By: Decaturguy http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29589 Decaturguy Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:47:48 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29589 I think a better argument for Barrow would be something like this: "My opponent would be an rubber stamp for President Bush. He owes him, particularly since he flew in for a fundraiser for him last week. On the other hand, I will continue to be an independent voice, making decisions based on what is best for this district." I think a better argument for Barrow would be something like this: “My opponent would be an rubber stamp for President Bush. He owes him, particularly since he flew in for a fundraiser for him last week. On the other hand, I will continue to be an independent voice, making decisions based on what is best for this district.”

]]> By: Overincorporated Fulton http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/comment-page-1/#comment-29576 Overincorporated Fulton Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:48:29 +0000 http://www.peachpundit.com/2006/08/28/barrow-v-burns-debate-coverage/#comment-29576 I mean, Max makes pretty much the only point he can against John...that even if John has an independent streak he still caucuses with Nancy Pelosi and votes to make her Speaker of the House. However, I think that this is too complicated a point to make to voters and is not one that is likely to get them to switch their support to Burns. Single-member districts make legislative politics in the U.S. very personal, so my thinking is that John's independence is an asset regardless of party affiliation. People don't generally think of Congress as a whole when they vote but rather about their individual congressman. I mean, Max makes pretty much the only point he can against John…that even if John has an independent streak he still caucuses with Nancy Pelosi and votes to make her Speaker of the House. However, I think that this is too complicated a point to make to voters and is not one that is likely to get them to switch their support to Burns. Single-member districts make legislative politics in the U.S. very personal, so my thinking is that John’s independence is an asset regardless of party affiliation. People don’t generally think of Congress as a whole when they vote but rather about their individual congressman.

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