Is This The Role of Government?

Hey Republicans in the General Assembly — I thought the Democrats were the “nanny state

32 comments

  1. elaine says:

    wow erik! You sure are angry. Why so when they’re discussing something that could prevent a death. Maybe if it were your kid you’d be glad that the topic is being discussed and researched. If it turns out, as it looks like it will, that a uniform statewide policy cannot be implemented, then so be it. But if there are things they can do that will save a kid’s life, then let them find out.

  2. GabrielSterling says:

    I’m with you Erick. Part of the reason to be a Republican is to be part of the “don’t mess with me” coalition. Parents, players and coaches do have the right to practice some common sense. This is another nanny state overreach.

  3. pvsys says:

    For the record… I think the House Republican’s have done a good job… it is really the Senate Republicans that are to blame… and even then… it is only about a half dozen RINOs there who are causing most of the problems. (so why not change that “congressional Republicans” to “Senate Republicans” to be more accurate.)

    –Rob McEwen

  4. Erick says:

    Rob,
    It’s Jerry Lewis and the House Appropriators who are the bane of conservatives everywhere. Not to mention the Main Street Partnership.

  5. John Konop says:

    Rob,

    We Got !

    NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND

    ENERGY BILL

    HIGHWAY BILL

    9 Trillion dollar debt

    I could go on and on….

    How is this conservative ?

    We have lost the meaning of conservative !!!!!!!

  6. pvsys says:

    Good points… but I recall many bills which left the house in excellent condition and then were either stalled or heavily compromised in the Senate.

    But, yes, the appropriators in the House seem to be heavy on RINOs.
    –Rob McEwen

  7. JP says:

    Erick, Gabriel, et al — If individuals would all make sound decisions on their own, no-one’s child would have died during football practice. Yet another case where Republicans simply want to say “not my problem,” and let others suffer.

  8. atlantaman says:

    “Why so when they’re discussing something that could prevent a death. Maybe if it were your kid you’d be glad that the topic is being discussed and researched.”

    If it were simply about preventing deaths then the Legislature would raise the minimum age for a driver’s license, since auto accidents are without question the leading cause of death among teenagers. It’s politically unpopular due to the parents having to taxi their kids to soccer practice and the movies for another year or two.

    The amount of deaths caused by High School heat exhaustion is literally a drop of water in the ocean compared to teen driving accidents. A far more logical approach would be to list the top 10 deaths attributable to High School students and then try to eliminate those dangers. Something tells me football players dying of heat exhaustion would not make the top 10 list.

    Perhaps the better discussion would be on how many children are going to die from diabetes, heart attacks, and strokes due to not getting any physical activity form after school sports such as football.

  9. macongop says:

    I agree Erik! What has happened to Local Control? Republicans always tend to think that Local Control know best for their own area. Keep Government out, when does Personnal Responsiblity come in to play?

  10. Erick says:

    If individuals would all make sound decisions on their own, no-one’s child would have died during football practice.

    Yes, and if individuals would make sound decisions on their own, there would be no:

    A. Obesity
    B. Smoking
    C. Heart Disease
    D. Paris Hilton
    E. Democrats

    Dammit, let’s pass us some laws!!!

  11. John Konop says:

    Erick,

    You make good points. But as a parent I do think Judson is right coaches can get out of control.I played Football in high school and the coaches were on the hot seat at all times.I also played sports at a D1 level at UC in Ohio.High school was much more out of control in terms of poor training.I think the answer is parents being parents and schools being schools.

    Judson Hill (R-Marietta), co-chairman of the committee, questioned continuing to let coaches or school administrators make the decision on when it’s safe to practice.

    “The local folks always have better personal knowledge of a specific situation; however, the local folks also are impacted by local pressures, demands and competition. It can maybe jeopardize the health of students,” said Hill, who added he would rather the GHSA handle the issue than have the committee push for legislation.

  12. Nativeson says:

    It’s fun to watch Republicans pretend to be conservative. Your actions speak much louder than your words.

  13. elaine says:

    erik,

    I just was a little miffed about why you balked at the discussion. I think it’s responsible to look at the situation and not just assume that nothing can or should be done. There is pressure to perform as John said, but in the end you’re right. Parents have the final word.

  14. UGAMatthew says:

    Elaine,
    You’re right, these discussion should be happening.

    Erick,
    You’re right, these discussions should not produce state-wide mandates limiting local authority.

    If seems that the hold up is when you have coaches or schools that cross the line or make bad decisisions regarding practice limits. So, you mean to tell me that a coach at a south GA high school, is going to just up and call off practice when the temp reaches 96 degrees. Doubtful.

    If the problem is over-the-top or careless coaches and administration, then the answer is to handle those individuals in what ever manner suits the situation. Not pass a state-wide temperature limit.

    There are schools in the state where football is religion and the staffs there are relentless. Their thermo. might say 94 and your’s 98 and I’ll bet the farm they’ll argue to the death about who’s is right. This is not going to be effective even if it is sent to code-book.

    The way to handle this problem is for schoolo systems to evaluate thier situation. Address individuals who may not cooperate and enforce a safe atmosphere at the county system-level. Not the state.

  15. emily says:

    I don’t know the stature of this particular kid, but it’s usually the 250+ lb. children that are collapsing on the field. Maybe salad for dinner should be the subject of legislation.

    Seriously, though, I agree with Erick. Of all the things our esteemed legislative leaders have on their untouched plate, please. Football practice–really? How about healthcare, education, gas prices? Gosh, I hope we can return to flag burning and such, too…the things that really impact people’s lives.

  16. Erick says:

    Elaine,
    You are right. Discussion is not the problem and may very well produce a solution. But I am really opposed to a government mandated solution.

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  18. Senator Eric Johnson says:

    I don’t think there ought to be a law for everything! GHSA is supposed to provide appropriate regulations. Coaches are hired to handle their teams. School Boards are elected by local parents and taxpayers to oversee their employees and students. This is NOT the purview of the Georgia general Assembly. Government cannot be everybody’s momma!

  19. atlantaman says:

    Couldn’t agree with you more Senator. A high school student dying from heat exhaustion is a rarity relatively speaking. It makes for big news, but raising the minimum driving age, eliminating soft drinks and banning swimming pools would prevent a lot more deaths. Between the trial lawers and the Legislators we’re not going to be allowed to do anything in our lives

  20. John Douglas says:

    Back from six military related events this weekend, so I apologize for the delay in answering the summons.

    I agree with Eric Johnson that no law is needed. My point too is that the GHSA controls high school athletics and are quick to react when something doesnt go according to their many regulations. So to say that avoiding heat injuries should not be something they have control over, or words to that effect, is off target in my opinion.

    The heat index that I have talked about is used by all branches of the military to try and cut down heat injuries that are suffered by troops. In no way does it limit training or the scope of activities. It simply says that every hour of being outside doing strenous training will include 10 minutes of drinking fluids and resting when the heat index hits a certain point.

    This would not force teams in Rabun County and Valdosta to stop practicing all at the same moment. It would allow each school system to react to weather conditions in their area at the time activities were being conducted. If the temp in Rabun is 75 degrees while it might be 95 in south GA, certainly Rabun would continue on as before while Valdosta made adjustments.

    No laws needed, just a simple policy from the GHSA.

  21. UGAMatthew says:

    Exactly Senator,
    Let the schools handle the situation. If they won’t let the school system. The Legislature needs to let it go. Maybe a lesson in admin. law would prove prudent.

  22. John Konop says:

    Senator,

    One would think the GHSA would copy the military standard to avoid injuries and lawyers.It seems like a good idea. What is the big issue with your idea ?

  23. John Douglas says:

    John:

    I dont know that there is a big issue. I think the GHSA is beginning to budge now, we will see what they come up with. The solution I suggest doesnt require “reinventing the wheel.” Its in place and proven its worth many times.

  24. Erick says:

    And that, my friends, is why we elect conservative Republicans to run this state — they know what is and is not the role of government (thank God!). Were the Dems in charge, there’d have been a special session by now.

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