Joel tells me Brian will not concede.
Good. Election should be decided by the voters in a majority, not a plurality.
If you think just because someone got a lot of votes in the primary they will automatically win, someone go back and look at what happened to Price Harding against Dan Moody a few years ago. That should tell you everything you need to know.
I was more than willing to support Kemp if he won. Now he has no shot at winning and will be tarnished in the future. Looks like his ego won out over his judgement.
Why would he concede? Because Black got a plurality? If Georgians wanted to decide elections with a plurality it seems like they would make the election law say that.
It will keep both their names in the news, so whoever wins will have higher name id.
I support both Handel and Black but think it is ridiculous to think that Kemp and Stephens will drop out.
Erick,I respectfully disagree with the idea that one who finishes 2nd in a run-off should concede.There was no way with four people running that we were going to avoid a runoff.I think that you will see the dynamics change drastically in this race and that Kemp will go on to win it.If not hats off to Gary and lets all fall in behind him and beat Mr.Tommy.
I would advise everyone to not underestimate Kemp and his team,they are experienced campaigners and a runoff requires a totally different skill set and I think they have what it takes.to win this on August 8th.
I think the idea of candidates dropping out of a primary is absurd. In its most simplest form, this what our process of voting is about. Don’ t think for one minute that Kemp is done, once Greer and Deanna publicly endorse Brian you better believe that combining the support bases of all three will take Gary down.
No one comes this far and works that hard just to quit- those people who think that is the way to go are the people who have finished second place their whole life and know nothing of what it feels like to win something hard fought. Pathetic…simply pathetic.
You are right GAnative. You are right on target. Look at all the examples of run-offs where the second place finisher wins the run-off. I think more of the second place finishers win run-offs than the other way around. I bet Bob and Dee will get behind Kemp because they know that Black cannot beat Irvin, and if he were too, he would be worse than Tommy Irvin.
What examples? I can’t think of the last time I saw a second-place finisher in a primary go on to defeat the lead dog…
i agree with debbie.
Well, you are COBB goper so you should remember Judson Hill’s race. He went into the run off with about 26% and the other guy had about 43%. Judson came back to win with 50 some odd percent.
Big difference between a county and statewide race.
What about Debra Bernes?
Bernes was more about voters tired of a lawsuit that kept dragging the election on and on and on. She won because 1) she is a female, 2) she was first on the ballot and 3) she was the best experienced and 4) she wasnt backed by the christian coalition and she didnt drive a red ferrari
Many on this site have suggested that Erik’s call for Kemp’s concession was an isolated, absurd view. Such pundits must not a) understand the desperate need for change at the agriculture department and b) appreciate the requisite resources needed to defeat the incumbent. The time for individual agendas, massive egos, and blind ambition has passed: Brian MUST concede this race for the benefit of the state party and for the good of those directly impacted by the Agriculture department. Below, I dissect why Brian needs to step aside.
1) Brian can’t win:
a. He won less than 10% of counties statewide.
b. He has no core base to turn out; Gary does—the agriculture community!
c. Endorsements by Greer and Strickland are of little or no consequences—these candidates have not incentive or mechanism to energize their base to support Brian Kemp.
d. Brian, per Bull Moose concession, has organizational problems—Gary’s 159 county leaders paid off!
e. Gary’s team leaders will produce the turn-out—which is what run-offs are all about—again; Kemp will still be disorganized.
f. Gary has a significant Cash on Hand advantage and a pulpit—the leader board—to raise more..
2) So Brian can’t win, but he can drain Gary’s money:
a. These three weeks will undoubtedly be some of the most expensive of the campaign.
b. Brian will be willing to spend everything because it is do or die for him; such spending will force Gary to spend even more precious resources on beating Brian Kemp AGAIN!
3) Every dollar spent on Brian, is a dollar less spent on beating a Democrat
a. Tommy will be able to spend thousands of his own money.
b. The more money Gary reserves for this race, the more likely he is to defeat Tommy Irvin.
c. Thus we should spend our time and financial energy toward defeating this complacent incumbent.
4) Thus, the only person Brian is helping by not conceding is Tommy Irvin
a. As Erick pointed out, the vote totals indicate Tommy Irvin is still popular.
b. The Republican Party must be united against the 37 year incumbent.
c. Tommy Irvin stands for most everything Republican opposes—a complacent, big government.
d. We cannot afford to re-elect Tommy Irvin—our industry and state is desperate for a change!
I should also mention, as the voters recognized yesterday, Gary Black is the most qualified candidate the GOP has put forth for this position in years. I hope humble heads, specifically Brian Kemp’s, will prevail.
Another observation, that is neither here nor there: Peachpundit.com posters, though I enjoy their discussions and commentary greatly, have been a little out of the mainstream on their view of this agriculture race—certainly as compared to their views of the Handel and Cagle races.
Amen Groseclose. Wishful thinking by the Kempers will never outweigh the reality that was July 18. 56,000+ gap in support for Gary Black over Brian Kemp. Time for Kemp and his new friends Greer & Strickland to go out to pasture!
Groseclose, there is a difference between what you allude to in my reference to issues and actual issues. Brian Kemp has a very strong ground game and has great supporters all over the state.
Let’s face it, everyone was very very preoccupied with the Cagle-Reed effort to make much of an effort on the other races.
Going into a runoff, with Joel’s focus, this campaign will be rocking and rolling along like a Navy Battleship ready to claim victory.
As Republicans, we only need to nominate candidates who have a majority of the vote and a majority has spoken and they did not select Gary Black.
Victory will be Kemp’s in August.
They damn sure didn’t select Kemp Mr. Moose. Kemp’s only shot at victory in August is to buy some scratch and win lottery tickets.
Bull, your idealistic rhetoric about not being “a majority
Again, this is a ridiculous post. Tells me the Black folks are quaking in their boots about this whole runoff thing. I’d be too if I were them.
Quaking in their boots…. I mean sure. Doesnt everyone know that Kemp is an effective, proven statewide vote getter…HAHAHAHAHAHA
The Democratic voting, horse fancier will come in second place AGAIN in the runoff.
Leave it to a liberal democratic lobbyist turned Republican to suggest that we just coronate him for office… Please…
It is going to be a sweet victory for Kemp when he beats you arrogant Black supporters. Just remember that arrogance does not hide fear. I can smell the fear guys. And you should be scared about a run off with kemp i think.
I hate GOP arrogance…
Mitch Skandalakis in 1998 was 2nd in a primary against Clint Day and he came back and won it. And, for those of you who are still knee-high to a peanut vine, THAT was a “statewide race.”
Skandalakis did well in November, too…
If you are going to post something, at least check out your facts first. Skandalkis did not come in second http://www.sos.state.ga.us/ELECTIONS/election_results/1998_0721/0000320.htmin the general primary, HE won it with 35% to Day’s 29%. and then won the runoff with 51%. its called research, do some before opening your mouth-
Rome, all we are talking about is the primary.
With Greer and Strickland’s endorsements this race could get interesting.
Bull, the only arrogance on these posts are coming from Kemp backers. Unfortunately, they don’t have anything to be arrogant about–the lost by 15% on Tuesday.
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