1. The Busdriver says:

    Best part:

    Now, we’ll have to find out how many Georgia Republicans are willing to put aside questions of character and cast their votes according to rhetoric. Some are arguing that Reed is on the right side on issues they care about, so what does it matter if his character is questionable? Well, we’ve found out again and again in American history how voters who choose manipulators because they vote the right way eventually lose out: Republicans with Richard Nixon and Democrats with Bill Clinton had their comeuppances. Now we’ll see whether Georgians have learned from history or are doomed to repeat it.

  2. The Busdriver says:

    Debbie, you are an idiot. A liar. And gullible enough to believe that everything on Wikipedia is true.

    Marvin Olaskly is a Bush advisor who crafted Bush’s “compassionate conservative” agenda. He’s a Christian, and he’s the editor of WORLD magazine.

    Debbie, you seem to have no information in your head. Everything you spout off is either the product of something you Googled, or something the Reed campaign sent you. I don’t think you actually have any brain matter–I think you lease with an option to buy.

    I don’t know what else to say. I try to tune you out, but sadly, I’m not doing a good job of it.

  3. BahamaBoy says:

    Hey Debbie, I’m not an atheist, gay, against display of the 10 Commnadments, or a Rockefeller Republican, and I agree with the piece. (Oh, I’m not a left wing liberal, either.)

    Don’t shoot the messenger — deal with the message: how many Georgia Republicans are willing to put aside questions of character and cast their votes according to rhetoric?

    Your man Reed’s character is out there for the world to see, yet all you can say about Cagle is “900 percent! 900 percent! 900 percent!”

  4. Demonbeck says:

    I would expect nothing less from a flip flop wearing hippie who drinks too many margaritas and listens to Jimmy Buffet all day long whilst sitting on the beach like you Bahamaboy. Get a haircut! 900%!

    Just kidding.

  5. BahamaBoy says:

    Naw, Olasky is now a born-again Christian — like Debbie. But you know how they like theire politics: “Christian against Christian, Tribe against Tribe and cousin against cousin.”

    Demon, do you really think my hair is too long?

  6. The Busdriver says:

    The funny part is that Debbie cites an American Athiest link in a weak attempt to back up her claim that Olasky is an Atheist. Problem is, the AA link takes you to an article that rips Olasky for being a Christian.

  7. debbie0040 says:

    Busdriver, you are an idiot. The guy used to be an atheist and he does have not believe christian leaders should run for office.

    Reed is not the only Christian leader he does not like or has criticized.

    Bahama Boy you are a Cagle staffer, . Character does matter and so does leadership. Cagle is not a leader and does not have character. He admitted lying about the Taylor contribution, he admitted to lying on his disclosure form when he listed contributions he had not yet received.

    Rudy Giuliani knows Reed has leadership and that is why the automated calls were made. Zell Miller attests Reed is trustworthy. Sean Hannity and Newt Gingrich have sung Reed’s praises. You expect the voters to believe Cagle’s lies over these well respected leaders?

  8. Demonbeck says:

    I would think that the Lord would forgive past transgressions as long as one repented and became born-again as a saved Christian.

    Maybe he does, but apparently Reed supporters don’t. One would think that the former head of the Christian Coalition would disapprove of any of his worship..er…follower…uh…supporters speaking negatively about a born again christian’s former faith. One would also think that Reed would encourage his supporters to do as Jesus said and offer the other cheek. I guess not.

    Hey debbie, I despise Pat Robertson, does that make me an atheist or a Christian-hater?

  9. BahamaBoy says:

    Debbie, I’m no staffer to any candidate. I just enjoy the game — kicking the crap out of opponents who lie, cheat and steal. That makes my efforts against Reed so much fun — there’s SO much material! This guy just keeps giving, and giving, and giving — like the Energizer Bunny.

    Come to think of it, that bunny reference works even better on you. I picture you as a Little Debbie Energizer Bunny moving around and banging your drum. You just keep going, and going, and going …

  10. debbie0040 says:

    Sure Bahama Boy You slipped up on the AJC and you mentioned something that happened only when Cagle staffers were around.

  11. The Busdriver says:

    Nice link, Deb. Olasky SHOULD criticize Pat Robertson. WE ALL DO. He’s an idiot. Olasky said Robertson was wrong to call for the assassination of Hugo Chavez . . . during a 700 Club broadcast.

    Guess what? Ralph condemned Pat’s remarks as well.

    Again, when you live and die by Google, you’re going to get your sh*t wrong 99% of the time.

    Demonbeck and I offer a correspondence course entitled, “Increasing your political acumen: How to win friends and influence people.” I’ll send you the syllabus. I’d sign up if I were you.

  12. Demonbeck says:

    When and where has Reed asked for forgiveness for the transgressions he committed? I have yet to see him apologize about his involvement with regards to the Mariana Islands, the Cousahatta Indian tribes or any of his other shady dealings!

    At least Falwell and Bakker had the balls to repent publicly to their supporters.

  13. debbie0040 says:

    Just remember that July 19th will be a long day for you Cagle supporters. I have taken abuse from you because of my strong support and defense of Reed. I intend to give it back…

  14. nfire says:

    I love how Debbie is all self-righteous about Christian leaders at the beginning of her post and then brags about Giuliani at the end of her post. All is falling apart for her and her stupid incompetent racist baby-eating idol.

  15. Bill B. says:

    The Busdriver
    Jul 13th, 2006 at 11:05 am

    Debbie, you are an idiot. A liar. And gullible enough to believe that everything on Wikipedia is true.

    Now when will the shortbus driver from cagle’s staff tell HSC Republican (also a staffer I bet) that he is an idiot for looking at and beleiving Ralph’s wikipedia?

    Never! Why? They say whatever looks like it makes their case and change more often than cagle walks out on votes. Not to mention how many changes the cagle team and other liberals have made on Ralph’s entry.

  16. Demonbeck says:

    “Demonbeck, Reed has asked forgiveness and you have not forgiven him now have you? ”


    When, Where and for what? Provide me a link.

  17. duluthmom says:

    Nice piece and it really speaks to the crux of the issue many have with Reed. Rhetoric that is compatible with your beliefs only goes so far, especially when there are doubts about character.

    Loved this line too:
    When a tribal public relations representative observed that Mr. Reed was an “ideologue,” the report quotes Mr. Abramoff’s reply — “as far as the cash goes.”

    I think many Reed supporters think the statement that “I made a mistake and never promise to do business with Abramoff again” constitutes asking for forgiveness. As I’ve stated before I don’t think he is truly repentent when in the same breath he considers himself “vindicated”.

  18. debbie0040 says:

    Jim Galloway will have the Giuliani automated phone call up shortly on the AJC Political Insider

  19. politicalwidow says:

    It seems like Ralph would have saved Zell until the end. I cannot think of anyone who would be more popular in Georgia with Republicans right now than Zell. People will be so overwhelmed with calls before Tuesday that the Zell call will be shuffled from their minds.

  20. jacewalden says:



  21. Jeff Emanuel says:

    Jace, was that ONE token lowercase letter there to avoid deletion? (ref: “GET uSED TO IT”) Nice.

    I think what Olasky has here in his column is a succinct summary of the beef that the anti-Reedites have with him. It’s a good point-by-point analysis of why the people who don’t support Reed don’t support him. It’s not going to convince any Reed supporters to change, just as a piece on Cagle probably wouldn’t lose him any support. The lines are drawn here and have been for a while; anything else is just more fuel on a fire that’s been burning for quite some time.

  22. John Galt says:

    Is that the same Giuliani that is pro-choice, pro-gay marriage and lived with a gay couple WITH HIS SON following his divorce?

    You guys are the Insane Clown Posse.

  23. Dignan says:

    Debbie: did you refer to Marvin Olasky as an avowed atheist? If that is the case, I now know to ignore everything you write. Olasky is an elder in one of the most theologically-conservative Protestant denominations in the country. It should make anyone (especially Ralph Reed’s Christian supporters) pause if someone of the stature of Olasky has concerns about Reed.

  24. Andrew says:

    I am stuck on the fence for this race. Bill Shipp made a good point that Reed could turn out to be another Lester Maddux once elected (that is a good thing for those ill informed). But again that is a leap of faith and remeber with all this religious talk that we are ultimately electing a politician, not a deacon here.

  25. Bill Simon says:

    Andrew, if you’re “stuck on the fence” your IQ must be that of the beetle scurrying around on my driveway, not knowing which way to turn before it gets squirted with bug killer.

  26. nfire says:

    Andrew –

    Why be stuck on the fence? These two guys have similar platforms. One of the guys has SERIOUS ethical and personality shortfalls, while the other doesn’t. Anyone who isn’t a blind Ralphie loyalist should see that the best choice is crystal clear: the guy without all the baggage.

  27. Andrew says:

    I choose to be stuck on the fence since will Reed comes with baggage he could be a windfall. While at the same time he could sink the entire party. Pardon the expression, but I realize Cagle is the safe bet more than likely. Plus I feel like the Reed supporters are having a little to much Kool Aide with lunch.

  28. Andrew says:

    Demon starting sound like Ralphite there believe it or not Republicans can listen to liberal ideas, thats why we are the Party of Lincoln.

  29. Demonbeck says:


    If you are referring to my quip about Shipp, it was completely in jest. I was mocking Reed supporters.

    If you were talking about my posts much earlier in which I was discussing turning the other cheek and born again Christians, well, sometimes you have to speak someone’s language to get through to them.

  30. Andrew says:

    Demon alright just making sure. There are some loonies out there just couldn’t get a read on that Shipp comment where you were going.

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