1. The Busdriver says:

    And don’t say that the piece claims that Ralph “supported” or “endorsed” forced abortions and child prostitution. That’s the red herring that Team Reed is throwing out there. Nobody is making that claim.

    I think Cagle is saying that Ralph knew about these violations (and why shouldn’t he), but he took the money anyway.

    And Debbie, don’t start your “Bob Riley contracted Ralph to put together the mailer” crap. You know that’s a lie.

  2. eem2006 says:

    Before any starts to say “this is too negative and will turn voters off” let me just say, it is factual.
    I do think that Ralph’s unfavorables are already so high that I don’t think these pieces are necessary

    And Erick, go ahead and tell us that this is backfiring on Casey…we are waiting.

  3. debbie0040 says:

    Clinton pushed this to appease labor unions upset about NAFTA. Reed opposed it. In fairness since you included the pdf from the Cagle cabal here is the Reed response.:

    Casey Cagle’s latest negative ad attacking Ralph Reed actually promotes a 1999 bill backed by Bill Clinton and union bosses that would have imposed federal wage and immigration laws on a U.S. territory. The bill included a provision granting amnesty to foreign workers. Cagle is so desperate to distract attention from his own ethical problems—like voting to benefit banks while running a bank and failing to pay his taxes—that he sides with Clinton and union bosses against Ralph Reed and Republicans who opposed the Clinton plan, including Congressman Bob Riley of Alabama and House Majority Leader Dick Armey.

    Fact: As a U.S. Commonwealth, the Northern Marianas Islands (CNMI) were covered by existing federal health and safety laws.

    Federal labor, health and safety laws, including the Occupational Safety and Hazard Act of 1970, apply to all U.S. territories, including the Northern Marianas Islands. Cagle’s claim that sweat shops, forced abortion or child prostitution are legal on a U.S. territory is absurd. (OSHA applicability: Occupational Safety and Health Administration, “OSH Act of 1970 as amended, Jurisdictional Note,”

    If OSHA and other labor laws were not adequately enforced, the blame lay with the Clinton administration. Labor law violations in the CNMI “are violations of federal laws, which the U.S. government has sole or concurrent jurisdiction.

  4. debbie0040 says:

    Gov. Bob Riley contracted Reed for this job.Is Casey Cagle accusing the current GOP Governor of Alabama of doin the same things he accuses Reed of?

  5. The Busdriver says:

    Debbie, you’re an effing liar.

    Erick, how ’bout kicking in that cut-and-paste policy?

  6. eem2006 says:

    debbie -please use original thoughts and quit posting RR’s press releases.

    It is REAAAAALLLYY annoying.

  7. nfire says:

    I don’t need to read all that to know that whoever was on the side of forced abortions and child prostitution is not on my side. That’s all the voters will take away from this.

  8. debbie0040 says:

    Excuse me eem2006 a pdf reponse from the Cagle campaign was posted as link. Are you going to deny the Reed response be posted as well?

  9. Demonbeck says:

    Governor Riley did not hire Ralph Reed to do this. At that time, Riley wasn’t even Governor. Do some homework next time debbie.

  10. HSC Republican says:

    Reed has lost his mojo. Cagle is now driving this race. It does not matter who is making phone calls for him. The people of Ga are smarter then you kool aid drinking crazy nut jobs! There is no denying that. The only question now is when Reed is going to pull the black baby out of his hat. He is unethical, mean, and down right scum. If you want Georgia to be the biggest joke since slice bread vote for scum ball reed!

  11. HSC Republican says:

    Need I remind you Debbie, Reed accused the Sonny and the Republican cacus on being weak on property rights…..i could care less if we piss off the gov of Alabama!

  12. eem2006 says:

    Debbie – check the threads below.

    It was asked that EVERYONE to stop posting direct releases. The PDF is here for a talking point.

    Have Erick post one of RR’s mailpieces. He can email his buddies over at the office for a copy. He is best friends with them and one of Ralph’s biggest supporters.

  13. Jack S says:

    I have a new policy. If debbie ellis is supporting a candidate I’m going to completely oppose them.

    Its a good litmus test.

  14. BahamaBoy says:

    Abramoff hired Reed for the Marianas work, not then-congressman Riley. The corrupt government there used Reed’s connections to avoid tougher labor laws being forced on them by the U.S. — labor laws that would have dealt a blow to forced abortions and child prostitution. That’s why Reed is in such a tizzy right now, because his former employees have leaked these stories to the media. Reed could have educated himself about conditions in the Marianas, but he chose instead to jump in bed with his buddy Abramoff one more time for the millions he knew would line his pockets.

    Debbie, if you weren’t here keeping us laughing , we’d have to make you up.

  15. debbie0040 says:

    Reed had known Abramoff for years. He trusted him, he trust GOP Congressman Bob Riley the current Governor of Alabama.

    I laugh at the fact you Cagle staffers spend time on these blogs . Keep it up …

  16. debbie0040 says:

    I did do my homework. Riley was a Congressman at the time. Why don’t you do your homework?

  17. debbie0040 says:

    Riley was very much involved in it. Are you going on record Cagle staffer/ Bahama Boy as denying Riley had any connection to it whatsoever?

  18. BahamaBoy says:

    Riley Connection? Sure Little Debbie, here’s is the Riley connection:

    Congressman Riley once had a press secretary named Michael Scanlon. You’ve heard that name, haven’t you? Scanlon went from Riley’s office over to work for Tom DeLay before teaming up with Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed to bilk the Indians.

    Scanlon set up a company, Capitol Campaign Strategies, and funded it with the millions he and Abramoff were getting out of the various Indian tribes. Capitol Campaign Strategies contributed $500,000 to the Republican Governors Association in 2002. The RGA later that same year sent nearly the same amount to the campaign of Bob Riley for Governor of Alabama. Pass-through? Can’t exactly say, but isn’t this similar to what DeLay did in the Texas re-districting case?

    Scanlon once summed out how he (and presumably Reed and Abramoff) play the political game: “This whole thing about not kicking someone when they are down is bullshit. Not only do you kick him—you kick him until he passes out—then beat him over the head with a baseball bat—then roll him up in an old rug—and throw him off a cliff into the pounding surf below.”

    But I digress. You asked about Riley. Yes, Debbie, Gov. Riley is a warm, sweet fellow. But back in the late 1990s he was running with a rough crowd and got played by Reed and his own former press secretary, Scanlon. Scanlon and Abramoff are now convicted felons. I hear they hope their buddy Reed will soon join them to keep up morale.

    Now you know why I play the game. I fight back against the Scanlons, Abramoffs and Reeds every day, and I truly enjoy it.

  19. The Busdriver says:

    Debbie, your guy condemns “guilt by association,” yet you spend all your time trying to imply “sanctity by association.”

    “Sure, Ralph did it, but Bob Riley helped him.”

    “Yeah, Ralph did it, but he was joined by blah blah blah.”

    “Ralph fought XY&Z, and he made money off it, but he was fighting alongside proud conservative Grover Norquist.”

    Ralph (and you) tries to insulate himself by naming his accomplists. Sometimes wrong is just wrong, no matter who’s helped you, or who you’ve helped.

  20. Bill Simon says:


    That is the most brilliant thig I’ve read in awhile…”sancity by association”….truly brilliant, and EXACTLY what Debbie and other Kool-Aid drinkers do for Ralph. 🙂

  21. debbie0040 says:

    I was trying to point out that Bob Riley would not be involved in supporting forced abortions or slave labor.

  22. BahamaBoy says:

    ABC News’ Brian Ross detailed the Northern Mariana Islands politcal scandal in 1998in a lengthy report back in 1998. Ross was interviewed earlier this year about his investigation, which included Reed and Abramoff. Here’s how Ross described the conditions he found in 1998:

    INTERVIEWER AMY GOODMAN: I want to go to the issue of forced abortion, which is astounding given Tom DeLay’s stand on abortion. Can you talk about that?

    BRIAN ROSS: Well, it’s completely counter to anything that DeLay or most Republicans seem to espouse, that was, on that island there were forced abortions. And the workers there who are all young women, who often had to pay to get these jobs, knew the rules. And they were barred from having boyfriends and certainly barred from having children if they became pregnant. They knew where to go, and there were a few essential back-alley abortion mills on the island. And that’s where these young Chinese women went in order to keep their jobs. And that was the deal. That’s part of the situation that was essentially endorsed by DeLay when he fought the laws. The laws were established essentially exempting Saipan, although it is a U.S. territory, from U.S. labor laws.

    AMY GOODMAN: So, of course, the clothing that is made there says “Made in the U.S.A.

  23. GOPeach says:

    Memo to All Undecided Voters:

    DO NOT!

    I repeat…

    defaming slander for one second!

    This has gone on long enough!

    I am drawing a linein the sand!

    I know RALPH and JO ANNE REED personally.

    He would NEVER be involved in such a thing.

    The Casey Cagel bunch are bottom feeders.

    They campaign just like democrats.
    There is no limit to how low they will go to
    lie to the voters in order to have a

    Casey thinks the senate owes him this.
    He thinks he has scratched enough backs for
    him to get his way.

    He is a good ole boy and the Senate is a
    Boys Club. It is so obvious!

    Cecil Staton is standing with Ralph Reed.
    Cecil is the most conservative senator in Georgia.

    Cecil Staton is not ” a player”. He will not be
    scammed. He is rock solid just like Ralph Reed.

    RALPH REED will win!

    Do NOT BELIEVE THIS Liberal Left Propoganda!

  24. GOPeach says:

    Memo to:

    B-Boy, Budwiser, nfire, RSC, etc….

    You all would be funny if you were not so silly.

    Debbie and Erick have something that you lack
    crirical thinking skills!

    Contrary to your shallow accessments, He is
    strong and gaining strength minute by minute.

    Please know that Casey is making more enemies
    than friends. He thinks he is gaining support,
    but he is loosing support because he is coming
    across like a loose canon.

    He is pushing the lever and I am afraid his
    plans are going to implode.

    Bless his heart. He has a bad campaign manager.
    It’s sad when thugs hyjack your campaign. It’s
    a little late now… too much damage.

    It will bite him and it will hurt.

  25. GOPeach says:

    John Smoltz is endorsing Ralph Reed!!!!

    That should knock this thing out of the park.

    But wait, there’s more…

  26. Demonbeck says:

    “John Smoltz is endorsing Ralph Reed!!!!”

    What, is he calling every Nextel owner in the state? ”

    Beep eep, This is John Smoltz, Beep eep, -ling you to vote for, Beep eep, -eed in the com-, beep eep, imary.”

  27. The Busdriver says:

    Breaking News, GOPeach!!!!

    Smoltz has been aboard the USS Corruption for over a year now.

  28. larry smith says:

    Baseball is a sissy sport anyway, and Smoltz is a moron. If you’re taking political cues from him, you need to get your head checked.

    Also, I agree … GOPeach is an idiot … kind of like a Tab version of Debbie (insert Jared joke here).

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