The Handel Questionnaire

We’ve got a copy of Karen Handel’s Georgia Equality Questionnaire from when she ran for her current seat in Fulton County. This could potentially give some socialcons some major qualms about voting for Karen. You can read it here.

58 comments

  1. debbie0040 says:

    I have absolutely no qualms in voting for Karen and I am a social conservative.

    To be perfectedly honest, I don’t see what social issues have anything to do with the SOS office though. Those issues are just distractions from the whole best qualified issue as far as I am concerned.

  2. JRM2016 says:

    A sampling of the bombshells from the questionnaire:

    -Taxes & planning for growth were the two biggest issues facing county government

    -Karen has gay friends and associates

    -She (gasp) talked to voters in her district who were gay

    -Karen admitted to being a fair and open-minded individual who will be accessible to all her constitutents

    Wow! That really changes my whole perspective on this race for Secretary of State.

  3. MountainDawg says:

    Debbie-You have no problem voting for Ralph Reed either, so we’ll take your endorsement as a social conservative with a grain of salt. She admits to being a Log Cabin Republican and participating in Gay Pride activities. As long as she doesn’t change her position, this shouldn’t be an issue in her statewide run. I’m also sure this is going to boost her campaign outside of the I-285 perimeter. When this news hits, and it will in rural Georgia, just remember this came from her own words. How dare Stephens use her own words in an attempt to examine what she believes!!

  4. northside elephant says:

    Good point JRM2016

    Where is the bombshell? That Karen has constituents and friends that are gay? So what?

  5. Bull Moose says:

    Who cares… I’m still voting for Karen. I’d rather vote for her than someone who faced a RECORD fine for ethics violations as a State Senator. How can you trust someone with such ethic violations to sit in a position over elections?

    Sorry, doesn’t work.

    Karen Handel will win.

  6. Tammi Metzler says:

    The bombshell is that she has been saying this entire election that she has never supported domestic partner benefits, and this questionnaire shows that she has been lying about it. I’d rather not have someone who outright lies to the citizens just to try to win. If she will lie about this, something that is important to voters, then she’ll probably lie about anything else.

    She has also denied being a member of the Log Cabin Republicans, and this also shows otherwise.

  7. John Silage Jr. says:

    I was undecided, but I think I will vote for Bailey. I have no idea of who he is. I just know that I can’t vote for Stephens or Handel.

  8. Bill Simon says:

    In order to BE a “member” of a group like the Log Cabin Republicans, one has top keep chapter dues current.

    Ergo, if she hasn’t paid dues for a number of years, then she isn’t a member.

    MountainMutt

    And people wonder why “rural Georgia” gets the short shrift for money?

    Because IF their attitude is as you make it appear, it is because they wish to remain STUCK in a back-ass woods, 3rd-World country attitude.

  9. John Silage Jr. says:

    Bill,

    That is such an elitist attitude. I am a Republican from deep south Georgia, but I have a hard time dealing with the GOP crowd from Atlanta-it centers around the fact that some of them make comments like you just made.

  10. The Busdriver says:

    I think the key is not what she said on the form, but that she’s lied about it. Karen has said she never filled out Georgia Equality survey, but it’s clear she did.

  11. northside elephant says:

    “Bill Stephens, a Republican state Senator from Canton, lent his campaign $113,000 but repaid himself $31,100 too much, according to campaign records.”
    -AJC June 14, 2003

    “State Sen. Bill Stephens (R-Canton), facing a vote today in the race for majority leader, has hired two lawyers to look into whether he repaid himself $32,100 too much for personal loans to his legislative campaign.”
    -AJC June 17, 2003

    “Two banks sued Stephens after he failed to make payments on personal loans, Cherokee Bank in Canton for $34,331 on Feb. 28, 2002, and the United Community Bank in Blue Ridge for $61,021 on Dec. 30, 2002, according to Chalmers (Stephens Attorney).”

  12. MountainDawg says:

    Bill-Like it or not, life does exist outside of the 285 perimeter. If the Republican party is ever going to become (and remain) the majority party, it needs to focus on all of Georgia. Ten years ago, you could campaign in Fulton, Gwinnett, Cobb and Fayette County and wrap the Republican nomination up. And, of course, they would lose in November. Now, it’s not that way any more (thankfully). My point is that Handel is one of those candidates that Republicans may embrace in the primary since she was worked for Governor Perdue and is Fulton County Commission Chairman. She had to make promises to those constitutents to get there.

    It has nothing to do with stuck in the back-a.. woods, 3rd World”. Just like metro Atlanta, we care about our troops in Iraq, the economy, job creation, less government, and lower taxes. The particular issue at hand has nothing to do with someone’s personal choices. It has everything to do with somebody that will say or do anything to be elected. In a statewide race, you have to make different promises and work with different groups than if you’re trying to win Fulton County. It’s OK to believe in God, respect your family, love your country, and have personal values that don’t have to be changed just because it doesn’t comply with an opinion poll. For some people, that’s not a campaign slogan-it’s a way of life. It’s a shame there aren’t politicians that can’t understand that.

  13. mspoon25 says:

    My God, she filled out a survey on equality?!? Come on. I think she was probably arguing semantics, but who cares? It has nothing to do with the position she is running for, and as long as she and stephens battle it out over this crap, the less time voters have to hear about their platform for the office they ARE running for. If you think it pertains to a future run for governor, fine. But leave it for the governors race, focus on the SOS.

    And I guess you should take me with a grain of salt, too, because I’m not voting for either of them.

  14. Bull Moose says:

    Blah Blah Blah… She never said that she supported domestic partner benefits, but that it was a concern that had been raised to her by constituents…

    If we elect Stephens, a Democrat will win this position. Sorry, Stephens just carries too much baggage.

    Gosh, can you imagine if both Reed and Stephens were on the ballot, it would be enough to kill Sonny Perdue’s chances at re-election…

  15. Tammi Metzler says:

    Bullmoose,

    READ the questionnaire! Question #4 asks if she supports legislation to provide domestic partner benefits to Fulton County employees. Her reply: YES. It actually says YES, then a period. Then she says another sentence.

    Well, that sure seems like she is saying she does support domestic partner benefits, particularly when her answer was: YES.

  16. JRM2016 says:

    A couple of other quick responses:

    –This document is unsigned and there is no proof that Karen signed it

    –The Office of Secretary of State handles Elections and Corporations, that is all. The Secretary of State is not the arbiter of gay marriage, domestic partnerships, etc.

    –In fact the gay marriage/civil union issue is officially resolved by the decision of the Georgia Supreme Court

    So back to the actual issues:

    Handel–has executive experience, has an agenda for sweeping election reform and making the Corporations Division more business friendly and the track record to show she will implement her plan once in office.

    Stephens–no executive experience, no agenda/platform for his term as SoS, history of ethical problems and other baggage making him difficult to elect against a dynamic Dem opponent.

    Is there any question who to vote for here?

    Handel ’06

  17. northside elephant says:

    JRM2016,

    You are wrong, Bill does have executive experience. He was briefly a top executive (CIO I believe) in Healthmaster.

    For those of you who do not remember Healthmaster execs were implicated in medicaid fraud and accused of requiring employees to donate to specific Democratic campaigns. The CEO was convicted of fraud and went to jail.

  18. northside elephant says:

    Bill Stephens also donated money to 3 different Democratic candidates for Congress.

  19. BlackVoters says:

    I personally heard in a recent debate Karen Handel openly state she is Pro-Choice. If that matters to you, you may want to rethink Ms. Handel. Now it looks like she is siding with Gay Pride. Talking with gays and having gay friends and family members is one thing; marching with them is all together different. I represent Urban Conservative Blacks and this information is very imprtant to us. We don’t need another Coretta Scott King.

  20. Tammi Metzler says:

    First, questionnaires don’t have to be signed. Many people don’t sign them. Besides, the leader of the group she filled the questionnaire out for, Chuck Bowen of Georgia Equality, authenticated the document.

    JRM, you are right about what the office oversees, but you must remember that these issues matter in a primary race, and that an issue such as this is important to primary republican voters. If you want to consider us insiders, then you can, and we pay more attention to the exact oversight of these offices. Most voters don’t, and will want to know where candidates stand on the important issues.

    Even Handel knows this, which is why she has been trying to paint herself as a conservative over the past few months. Last time I saw her speak, all she talked about was how she was sooooo conservative, she never mentioned her plan at all. Now, we all know she is not conservative, and that she lies about her past.

    Stephens has worked for mortgage companies, and been a banker. I think that gives him plenty of business experience.

    Stephens has already worked on election reform, as a State Senator, along with all of the Republican legislators. Which candidate was a part of the voter id legislation? That’s right, Stephens was, not Handel.

    Maybe you should see Stephens speak. He’s been at a lot of events lately (check his website), and he has spoken about his plan, including reforms he wants to do with our elections. In a press release, he stated that he will stand up for Georgia and fight for English only ballots.

    Handel has her own baggage, and we’ve seen it exposed now. She lies to the electorate, and denies everything, despite the overwhelming truth that shows she lies. Who wants to vote for someone who outright lies to the electorate? She insults voters by thinking they will fall for the lies she tells everyone.

    Lastly, if you think there is a dynamic Dem in this race, you have obviously never seen any of the democratic candidates. Stephens will beat any of them. I’ll even say that they’re so pathetic that Handel would beat any of them.

    Here’s the question for you: Why would anyone want to vote for a candidate who spends her entire campaign lying about what she did in her past campaign? IF she turned her back on Fulton County voters then, I’m sure she will do it again, but this time to all of Georgia voters.

  21. Tammi Metzler says:

    Northside Elephant,
    Karen Handel also donated money to Bill Stephens in past elections. Ouch.

    Also, Karen was an executive with CIBA Vision, which went through it’s own set of scandals in the business world.

  22. northside elephant says:

    Tammi,

    I’ve known Bill since the Republican takeover of the senate, he has never worked as a bank exec or mortgage banker to my knowledge. I did not see anything about banking on his website.

  23. techtrack says:

    northside elephant,
    to be fair he was not the ceo, he was a vp. the ceo and other execs went to jail.

    blackvoters,
    i don’t know what you were smoking when you “heard” handel speak she is pro-life, always has been pro-life

  24. northside elephant says:

    techtrack,

    You are correct, he was a VP but I said “CIO” not “CEO” and I don’t mean to imply in any way that Bill himself did anything illegal.

  25. CobbGOPer says:

    That questionaire is not authentic, folks, for one thing.

    For another, I’ve personally heard Karen at forums and debates emphasize that she is NOT pro-choice. The only reason Georgia Right to Life did not endorse her as well was because of their (in my own opinion) idiotic stance of no exceptions on abortion except life of the mother. Mrs. Handel has the common sense opinion that if a woman is raped or abused via incest and gets pregnant, she should be able to terminate that pregnancy. In all other cases she is vehemently pro-life.

    These tactics by Stephens are the actions of a desperate campaign. If this matter was so important, why has Bill not put it on a mailer? Why hold a press conference that was barely attended by the press, and to my knowledge never reported on? Why throw up a cheesy website smearing Karen? I’ll tell you why: he has no money left to speak of…

    Websites are cheap and easy. I can put one up for $15 in 30 minutes. Press conferences = free.

    You won’t see any mail on this, nor any commercials. Because Bill’s broke.

    As for his conservative credentials, I don’t vote for people who campaigned for and raised money for Bill Clinton. If you’ve seen Karen’s latest mail piece, you’ll notice a picture of Stephen’s in a small gathering of people, with BILL CLINTON. And Mr. Stephens is smiling away like he’s having a grand old time.

    While Bill was working for Mr. Clinton, Karen worked for Dan Quayle, and campaigned for him and President Bush in 1992.

    Let’s see, what else? Mr. Stephens says he’s pro-family? Why is it that he was let go from Zell Miller’s staff for sleeping with another staff member (or was it an intern?) WHO WAS NOT HIS WIFE?

    Sure, Bill has A LOT of respect for marriage.

    There’s a reason his nickname around the Capitol is “Dollar Bill.” He’s corrupt, sleazy, and not to be trusted.

  26. northside elephant says:

    Tammi
    Karen once contributed to Stephens? I fail to see why that matters. Dig this:

    Stephens’ defense attorney told the AJC “Stephens paid the Cherokee Bank in Canton $34,331 on Feb. 28, 2002, and he paid the United Community Bank in Blue Ridge $61,021 on Dec. 30, 2002.

    This means that Stephens was able to pay back the loans at no interest! Who can get an unsecured, 0% interest loan? Apparently Bill Stephens can.

    Anyone else see a problem with that?

  27. Tammi Metzler says:

    Northside,

    Get this! The AJC reported that Chuck Bowen, the director of Georgia Equality, authenticated the questionnaire that Stephens had presented at a press conference, which showed Karen Handel saying she supported domestic partner benefits for Fulton County employees.

    Newsflash! Handel has spent her entire campaign saying she never supported domestic partner benefits.

    Get this! Handel lied, and she got caught! Now, all of you are scrambling to counter act, but it won’t work. You’ve lost this one. Give up, she got caught lying to the people, and there is nothing you can do about it, because it is the truth.

  28. elaine says:

    Blackvoter,

    Speak for yourself because you don’t speak for this conservative black woman. I have followed this race since last year. Karen Handel presented her qualifications, her vision and more importantly her plan. Only recently has she been pulled into this mud bath by a candidate who has not talked about the issues and duties pertaining to the job of the Secretary of State. Right now we’re all being distracted from the real issues that this “job interview” known as a campaign is supposed to cover. At the end of the day, you don’t “interview” your doctor by asking what his or her opinion is concerning the noise your car is making. Don’t let Stephens keep us focused on issues that are not in the job description. Focus those issues on the people that actually have that job description.

    Finally, has anyone thought about the fact that Karen will do better in the general than Stephens due to demographics alone? And that since GA Equality is endorsing Democratic Candidates, they’d want the person with the worst chance of being elected to make it to the general?

  29. BlackVoters says:

    Hey – Techtrack
    WHat makes you think I smoke? Maybe you need to ask Ms. Handel what her definition of ” Pro Life ” is. Maybe she opts to not put her dogs down.

    Call Keren for yourself. Ask her why she is not endorsed by Georgia Right to Life! Karen’s Phone No. 770-452-8580
    Email: [email protected]

    I’d say we need to stop this woman now. She is going too far.

    Here is a quote from the Southern Voice:

    “But perhaps Handel needs to do a bit more reading of Southern Voice to remember her own positions.

    If she doesn’t care what the paper writes or says, why did she participate in a candidate forum hosted by Southern Voice and Georgia Equality, the state’s largest gay political group, when she was running for Fulton County Commission chair?

    Why did she do an interview with Southern Voice back in February 2003 when she announced her candidacy for the Fulton post that she now holds, including acknowledging her gay supporters and pledging “an open door and a seat at the table” even when she disagrees on issues?

    Why did her campaign, like those of her three opponents in the Fulton Commission race, submit a statement from an openly gay supporter to be published in our issue immediately before the vote, explaining why gay voters should back her?

    Why did she repeat her pledge to be “fair and open” in an interview with Southern Voice immediately after her election?

    I could go on posting links to the many times Handel has chosen to be interviewed by our pro-gay, anti-Republican tabloid, but you get the idea.

    As for her characterization of the paper, on the “pro-gay” part, she’s got us there. The mission of Southern Voice is to cover issues of concern to gay Georgians, and we won’t apologize for that.

    But just as important to our mission is presenting these issues with all of the professionalism of any other media outlet, and that’s the reason that numerous sources on the “right” of the political spectrum — from the Southeastern Legal Foundation and the Alliance Defense Fund to more than a few GOP lawmakers who have the conservative credentials to which Handel now aspires — regularly interview with our reporters.

    We aren’t anti-Republican. We’re anti-hypocrisy.

    And as readers of Southern Voice know, there’s plenty of that to go around in both major political parties these days.”

  30. bowersville says:

    So now it is clear, Southern Voice , a pro gay publication, has come against Handel. I guess this makes SOV pro Stephens. Thanks BV. Exactly what did Chuck Bowen authenticate, the document or Handel filling it out? Besides what’s Bowen’s motive, and better yet who is Bowen and why should he be trusted. Tell me more about Stephens sponsoring of SB-5. Oh, after the public outcry, he removed his name? Does this make Stephens a liar or a coward?

  31. northside elephant says:

    Karen Handel does not support benefits for gay partners. Karen Handel is absolutely pro-life and pro-family.

    It doesn’t matter what the Southern Voice says to the contrary. The SV is not on my reading list but apparently Tammi thinks that a gay advocacy rag like the SV is credible and impartial.

  32. northside elephant says:

    Since Tammi and the Stephens folks like to read the Southern Voice I decided to check it out myself. The SOVO had a very interesting article about Bill:

    “Bill Stephens’ glass house
    Ga. Senate GOP leader defends ‘sanctity of marriage’ despite marital infidelity

    By RYAN LEE
    Friday, February 06, 2004

    State Sen. Bill Stephens, sponsor of a proposed amendment to Georgia’s constitution that would ban gay marriage, is in no position to defend the “sanctity of marriage,” his former wife told Southern Voice this week.

    The woman, who asked that her name not be published, said she and Stephens were married for 15 years and had two sons before the couple split in 1991, in part because she heard persistent allegations that he was having an extramarital affair.

    In an interview on Jan. 30, Stephens acknowledged the divorce from his first wife but denied there were any allegations regarding extramarital affairs….

    …When she (Stephens ex-wife) heard Stephens’ comments about defending the “sanctity of marriage,” his ex-wife scoffed.
    “It’s a bunch of baloney,” she said. “The only thing Bill Stephens will do is try to get himself reelected.”

    Marital matters
    The only reason behind the divorce that Stephens’ ex-wife was willing to discuss was the “persistent rumor” of an extramarital affair involving Stephens, who was then working as press secretary for then-Gov. Zell Miller (D-Ga.).
    Stephens announced his resignation on May 9, 1991. His divorce took place on Aug. 20, 1991, according to records from the Georgia Bureau of Vital Statistics…”

  33. bowersville says:

    “Speaking of the Supreme Court ruling…banning same sex marriage…we are disapointed with the decision…,said Chuck Bowen, the Executive Director of Georgia Equality.” http://www.georgiaequality.org This is one heck of source for Stephens. Desparation? Yes!

  34. northside elephant says:

    Tammi if I went to Carver I would have voted for Paul Metzler. I like your name though.

    😉

  35. bowersville says:

    Booray,
    I posted a second or third page response for you. You may answer it here. Get it on the front page, if you please.

  36. Bull Moose says:

    Please God Republican voters see through the crap of lies that comes out of the mouth of Bill Stephens and his supporters… He’s not right for Georgia.

  37. bowersville says:

    I can see it now, Perdue stuck with ethically challenged Reed & Stephens. It not going to happen!

  38. bowersville says:

    Tammi, I also answered your garbage on page 2 or 3. You are sick. Just like all the Stephens few.

  39. techtrack says:

    blackvoter,
    i would suggest that you pick up the phone or use that email address. when you do email handel please post her response here. given you’re comments you have never seen, met or heard handel. when you have and can show any sign of intelligence, let me know and we will have an intelligent debate. until then go back to smoking what ever you were smoking and pretending that you’ve actually heard or listened to handel.

  40. bowersville says:

    I’ve met Handel and questioned her, where are you Booray and Tammi? BV is full of sh*t. Maybe SOVO will endorse Stephens/Reed on BV’s word.

  41. northside elephant says:

    I had no idea that Bill Stephens wife left him because he was having an affair until I read that article. I wonder if that is also why he was abruptly fired by Zell Miller.

  42. debbie0040 says:

    The bottom line is the Lt. Governor’s race is having a huge impact on this and the AG race.
    It is not going to matter what new revelations Stephens comes up with. He is a state senator and he will be hurt by that letter they sent out asking Reed not to run. That infuriated Reed supporters and others. Voters saw that as arrogant. It doesn’t matter if he did not sign on to that letter. He did not distance himself from that letter.

    The primary will be a low turnout. Voters are turned off by the different campaigns mudslinging and don’t know who to believe. They will stay at home. The diehards will turn out and that wil help Handel.

    I chose to support Karen as soon as she announced. I think she will do a great job and will help the GOP appeal to women. Nothing has changed that and nothing will unless she is caught in bed with a live woman or a dead man.( to paraphrase Edwin Edwards. :))

  43. Tammi Metzler says:

    Northside Elephant,

    You said:
    “The SV is not on my reading list but apparently Tammi thinks that a gay advocacy rag like the SV is credible and impartial. ”

    Why don’t you stop being a complete idiot for once. Please point out where in this post I have ever mentioned Southern Voice. Guess what, I haven’t!

    I have only mentioned the questionnaire and the AJC article.

    Also, Handel does support domestic partner benefits. This questionnaire proves it.

    Bowersville, you also need to open your eyes. You said:

    “‘Speaking of the Supreme Court ruling…banning same sex marriage…we are disapointed with the decision…,said Chuck Bowen, the Executive Director of Georgia Equality.

  44. 4ofspades says:

    Looks like Stephens and Bowen have quite a relationship.

    From the May 6, 2005 Southern Voice article titled “Gay Marriage May Impact ‘06 Ballot in Georgia

  45. northside elephant says:

    Tammi,

    I don’t know why you quote the Southern Voice or Chuck Bowen when you assault Karen Handel. I don’t know why you chose a screen name, “Tammy Metzler” which is a lesbian* character in the movie “Election”.

    I do know that Bill Stephens was fired by Zell Miller after only 4 months in office, Bill became a VP in scandal-ridden Healthmaster for a short while. Bill then started a consulting firm which quickly failed after a few months. Around 2000 Bill decided to run for Lt. Gov. but dropped out when he was sued by two community banks for defaulting on mysterious unsecured loans.

    *I swear I am not making this up, Google “Tammy Metzler”

  46. law303peachtreeroad says:

    Steve Handel,

    Shut the hell up and stop having conversations with yourself. You are a buffoon. If you were banned from the internet this headline would have had maybe 7 posts.

    Get a life.

  47. debbie0040 says:

    I don’t beliee 4 of spades is Steve. The writing does not seem like his style. If it is, so what? I see postings obviously put up by Stephens staffers so what is the difference?

  48. blazer says:

    I am an undecided in this race and will probably not decide until minutes before I vote.
    Now that I have said that, I was looking at Karen’s website and saw this:

    “While Chairman of the Fulton County Commission, Karen Handel has spoken out against Domestic Partner Benefits.”

    That statement differs from this 2002 Questionnaire:

    “4. Do you support legislation to provide domestic partner benefits to Fulton County employees?
    Yes. I believe in overall fairness for all Fulton County employees and will work with the GLBT community groups to fine tune workable legislation.”

    I’m not saying that Domestic Partner Benefits are a bad thing as much as I’m saying Karen will say anything to get elected.

    As a social con, there really is no one to vote for in this race (not that social issues should matter for SOS). You can vote for a gay man’s best friend Karen or the ever faithful Bill or you could vote for the two goons who have even less qualifications or chances of winning.

  49. bowersville says:

    Tammi, thanks for re-using my previous post. Maybe you will go to the associated website in my post and find out who Stephens has associated himself with, Chuck Bowen.

  50. northside elephant says:

    Blazer

    Karen is an intelligent technocrat. She fought corruption and slashed spending. I live in Fulton and know firsthand that she wages a daily battle within the county government against a massive bureaucracy. None of the other candidates
    can begin to compare to her managerial accumen.

    Consider the messenger before you believe Stephens pathetic lies. Stephens recieved the biggest ethics fine in the history of our state! He paid himself tens of thousands of dollars out of his campaign funds to pay for defaulted bank loans. Stephens was working for Clinton-Gore while Karen was working for Dan Quayle!

  51. Bill Simon says:

    Law,

    It’s no wonder you don’t use your real name on the blog…you’d probably be fired for all the time you spend blogging and then charging the clients for that time.

    Wait…don’t tell me…you’re actually a paralegal, right?

  52. pulease says:

    Since when does a candidates qulifications matter over their social views to the majority of the Repubican Party? If the party’s representatives in the GE in November include Reed OR Cagle, Handel OR Stephens how is that NOT a sad state of affairs for the party?

    A Republican who is elected during the primary that is anything other than FRINGE would be refreshing…not sure they are out there….

    This battle to determine who is most Conservative is interesting considering the post of SOS has almost nothing to do with Social Politics, rather to do with affecting policy and influencing legislation with respect to voting and business licensing.

  53. techtrack says:

    pulease,
    you are correct. i would suggest that you visit the web sites of handel and stephens. you’ll find that one – handel – has a well thought out plans for what she wants to do when elected.

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