1. Demonbeck says:

    China Trade is such a red herring. Does John Konop know how many American jobs are created through trade with China?

    That ad would make me want to vote against John Konop.

  2. The Busdriver says:

    I didn’t know you could produce TV spots on a Commodore 64. Sweet!

    Now all he needs is some clip art of some flags blowing in the breeze and this thing is golden.

  3. Demonbeck says:

    KonopTV – brought to you by the makers of Space Invaders, Moon Patrol and Yars’ Revenge!

  4. HSC Republican says:

    This is just a bad ad. He must have used every dollar he had to buy the tv spot. I think it makes him look like less a viable option. If you do not have good tv, then most people are turned off!

  5. HSC Republican says:

    He may win the Star Treck vote, but the Star Wars people will not vote for him because the graphics suck!

  6. atlantaman says:

    I think you’re right. He should have had the folks who wrote and directed the “Wolfman and Donna” commercials do the Konop ad.

  7. SteveStoll says:

    Demonbeck, are you suggesting that trade with China has been a net-positive for American workers and small businesses? Our trade deficit with China is over $200 billion (not including what they funnel through Mexico, Central America, and US territories). Would a $400 billion deficit be even better? Below is a press release that shines some light on the matter:

    Congressman Tom Price’s China Connection
    June 28, 2006

    Last year, when fellow Republican Congressmen were calling for action against Communist China’s trade violations, Tom Price chose to side with China.

    Our trade deficit with China is soaring in part because of China’s numerous trade violations. Republican Henry Hyde’s trade report estimated that the Chinese steal our intellectual property 90% of the time; estimates of the cost to US companies run as high as $250 billion per year. According to Congressman Lynn Westmoreland (GA-Rep), “China manipulates the value of its currency, it subsidizes its industries, and even allows what amounts to slave labor.

  8. John Galt says:

    This is one of the worst political ads ever. Did Konop get the class president at Woodstock High to do the voiceover? A cartoon would have been better than this drivel. And his issue is the trade deficit? That ranks, oh, no where on issues Republicans care about. I hope Konop isn’t paying his consultants much.

  9. Bill Simon says:

    Yeah, well, not every candidate running for office has unlimited coffers stuffed with campaign cash from every protectionist outfit out there.


    “China is a red herring?” Perhaps you recently missed the news that China BACKS NORTH KOREA in their building and test-firing of missles. And, they will block any action the US tries to take through the limp-dicked UN.

    But, I’m sure you don’t live anywhere where a missile might land on your head. Too bad.

  10. Bill Simon says:


    The ad was “good enough” to cause the Price campaign to go ballistic at it.

    But, perhaps you’re one of ther 3% of morons in this country who DO trust Congress.

  11. BB says:

    Konop is responsible for exporting more jobs out of America through his employment at Citigroup than Congressman Price could possibly achieve after only 1 term in DC. Lousy ad from a paranoid hypocrite candidate who has more trouble with the truth than Tommy Flanagan…that’s the ticket.

  12. Demonbeck says:


    Don’t give me that. Korea’s missiles cannot even make it to Japan, much less the Continental US or even Hawaii or Alaska for that matter.

  13. Demonbeck says:

    Trade with China and with CAFTA-DR countries help Georgia’s Agribusinesses grow and reach new markets. Certainly, John Konop cares about Georgia’s farmers.

  14. Bill Simon says:

    John Galt,

    Funny screen name. Too bad your comments don’t reflect you know ANYTHING about the character in the book.

    Here’s the juicy part: “That ranks, oh, no where on issues Republicans care about.”

    Right…this is what today’s “Republicans” think about: Theocracies and how to turn America into one.

  15. Demonbeck says:

    No Bill, that is what Reed supporters think about. This Republican thinks about how best to keep the Government out of my pocket.

  16. Bill Simon says:

    Ohhh…the old “agri-business” trick, Demon. Puh-leeze. China has MORE FARMLAND than twice what we have.

    Go smoke a corncob with Saxby Chambliss and Jimmy Carter on your back porch while you wax poetry about how much money y’all got from the Guvment to pay you for NOT growing “agri-business.”

    Good grief. Demon, do you really think all us city folks are that stupid to buy that bullshit from you?

  17. Bill Simon says:


    Funny how our federal budget HAS GROWN more than twice the rate of inflation every damn year we’ve been in power in this country.

    Yeah, buddy…let’s vote to keep these “Republicans” in power for 100 more years!

  18. SteveStoll says:

    Demonbeck, all of the Republican agricultural commissioner candidates that showed up at one of their recent debates in Cherokee County (all but one) disagreed with your statement that trade deals (such as CAFTA, NAFTA, and WTO) help Georgia’s farmers. They complained that these poorly negotiated trade deals have harmed small farmers by allowing Georgia’s trading partners to over-subsidize their farmers (rather than equalize the subsidies), which is causing many Georgia’s small farmers to go out of business. If fact, the deals have caused Congress to add more farm subsidies, further burdening American taxpayers.

    Also, as you know, these trade deals have recently put the US in the position of importing more food than we export…

  19. Demonbeck says:


    While it is true and alarming that our federal spending has grown at an alarming rate since Bush has been in office, a majority of the growth of our Federal government has come in the Defense Budget which was largely ignored by the Clinton Presidency. Add to that the souring economy left by the former administration and the 9/11 attacks and you have a recipe for a lot of spending. Imagine how much worse it would have been had Al Gore been President.

    What the National GOP must do now that the economy is back on track is look at some major spending cuts in the coming years. I’m not talking about cutting the F-22 Raptor program, I am talking about cutting the Department of Education kind of cuts. If the House and Senate remain as is after this election, they will have two years to put up or shut up.

  20. BB says:


    I thought you were only doing database work for Konop?? Now you are his media buyer as well…must be ‘hard out there for a pimp’ as the song says.

    I will give you kudos for such a small buy…wouldn’t want too many folks getting a gander at this amateur production. Money would have been better utilized wrapping some more MARTA benches.

  21. Demonbeck says:

    Sure they did Steve, because it would be political suicide to say otherwise.

    I’ll ask you this though, Knowing that Canada’s Softwood lumber can be harvested and delivered to Georgia cheaper than Georgia lumber can be harvested and delivered to Georgia, without trade to countries like China and the CAFTA-DR nations where would Georgia’s wood and wood products go? What would you propose we do with all of the people who would become immediately unemployed by a lack of need for these products? What about the folks who rely on heavy China Kaolin clay trade to Asia? Where would they go?

    Beyond that, when you make your trip to your local grocery store or Walmart, are you willing to double the cost of those goods you are buying to feed your family and put clothes on your back? Those clothes that are made with Georgia cotton in a factory that is currently in China. Maybe you could drive there in the Ford or Chevy that you are now forced to drive that gets 10 mpg, because Asian cars are no longer imported to the US? Of course, it would be hard to get that gas for less than $10 a gallon because Environmentalists who are about as realistic as you refuse to let us explore for oil in ANWR and build more refineries in America would rather you take a bike.

    Is that really a life you want?

    Whether folks like Lynn Westmoreland, Charlie Norwood and John Konop like it or not, the world economy is now just that – a world economy. The US needs to realize that and make preparations for it or it will be left behind. Frankly, I have got to believe that these three already know this, but they also realize that a vote for CAFTA-DR and China PNTR is not going to help them get re-elected in their districts. So they just bring up the red herring “China” because that’s what you want to hear.

  22. BB says:

    The difference in you and I Bill is that I have actual experience buying media of all sorts. If you need help getting a better deal to stretch the low operational budget, let me know.

  23. Bill Simon says:


    You should really be concentrating on going out and tearing down Mary Wilhite’s signs and trying to figure out how to boost Sean Jergunsen’s flagging candidacy. Isn’t THAT what you are being paid to do?

  24. Demonbeck says:

    Thanks Bill, but you’re still wrong on China Trade and so is John Konop. Alexander Haig would wag his finger in your direction as well.

  25. Bill Simon says:

    Alexander Haig…wow…you really gotta reach for the old-timers, eh?

    I’ll see your Haig and raise you a “What would Barry Goldwater say?”

  26. Demonbeck says:

    I used Haig because he was Regan’s Secretary of State. Since Reagan has become something all true Republicans aspire to and the Secretary of State is a position that would oversee such issues I figured he would be a good figure to use. Would you have preferred I used Jim Baker, Colin Powell or Condi Rice?

  27. Bill Simon says:


    It’s not that “trade” with China is bad. It’s that it’s not “fair trade.” The agreements are quite lopsided and uneven.

    China has NO laws/standards when it comes to respecting patented/copyrighted works or products. So, a lot of what we’re “selling” them, they take, figure out how to replicate it, and sell it to their masses WITHOUT paying our businesses the royalties.

    Now, that may be considered a “fair situation” to someone like John Galt here, but it’s not to most of the businesses who spent the time to invest in capital to produce such original designs and products.

  28. Demonbeck says:


    I am not arguing about patent/copyrighted works or products. You are correct in that it is wrong for China not to respect them. However, until this issue becomes one that motivates the world to act against China, they will continue to disregard these things. The answer to solving that problem is certainly not ending all trade with China, because all of our other trading partners will continue to trade with them and us. Sanctions from the UN won’t do much and sanctions from our government will do even less.

    You can stop playing golf with a friend who cheats, but if he’s a fun guy and knows how to make the greens fees cheaper, people are going to still play with him. You only hurt yourself by paying more expensive greens fees.

    Either way, I am not arguing with you, I am arguing with those folks who say trade with China is a bad thing while wearing their Hugo Boss Shirts and their Hilfiger Tie.

  29. John Galt says:

    Two points:
    1) Trade is not a zero-sum game.
    2) The Konop candidacy, the point of this post, is focused on grendade lobbing. Granted, the Price camp should be called into question for responding to the grenades. Most campaigns would – should – treat minor primary challengers like an elephant treats flies. But if Konop is going to continue to receive answers to his challenges, he should at least put the focus on issues that resonate with voters. “Trade deficit” is not one of them.

  30. Demonbeck says:

    The China Trade Red Herring does resonate with voters – especially in former manufacturing havens like North Georgia. Many elections have been lost over votes on NAFTA, CAFTA and Normalized Trade Relations with China. (I can’t name any in Georgia per se, but look at NC and KY.)

    As an aside, I will add this…When China was given the Permanent Normalized Trade Relation Status in the late 90’s early 00’s, the argument was that increased trade would make the Communist Government succumb to capitalistic pressures and with American products, American ideals would enter the country. Why doesn’t the same argument hold for Cuba?

  31. John Galt says:

    I will agree with you that the trade issue certainly could resonate in certain congressional districts in certain states. I do not think, however, that GA-6 is one of them.

  32. BB says:

    aggie, Konop or his campaign manager Steve Stoll probably think they are putting the signs in the ROW…just like every other one seen to date.

  33. John Konop says:

    A New Threat from Communist China
    The Bush administration “National Highway Transportation Safety Administration has not pushed for an immediate recall of these defective products. Instead, it is currently squabbling whether Foreign Tire Sales over whether FTS has the funds to pay for the recall.”

    Up to 450,000 of the Hangzhou Chinese tires are on the road and they refuse to help with the recall. Do you think our trade with China is out of control?

    CNN-And a new threat from communist China. Now it’s defective automobile tires. The U.S. government is aware of the danger and have been for some time now. Why no recall? Why no concern about American consumers? We’ll have that report. Stay with us.

    DOBBS: More troubling news about communist Chinese exports to this country. An American distributor now saying almost half a million tires that it imported from China are defective and dangerous, but the company says it can’t afford to conduct a recall.

    Now some lawmakers say the Bush administration should step in, take those tires off the road and actually show some concern for American consumers.

    KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Up to 450,000 of the Hangzhou Chinese tires are on the road. They are defective and can cause a crash. But as of now, there is no recall. And the tires are still being sold. The tire brands Westlake, Compass, Telluride and YKS.

    Four senators are so outraged, they’ve written to the president: “Amazingly, the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration has not pushed for an immediate recall of these defective products. Instead, it is currently squabbling whether Foreign Tire Sales over whether FTS has the funds to pay for the recall.”

    SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D), MICHIGAN: The Bush administration should not be arguing with the distributor about who’s going to pay for a recall when every single day, these tires are on the road and this could cost people’s lives. So we need to have the federal government act with a mandatory recall.

    PILGRIM: The U.S. distributor, Foreign Tire Sales, today said they don’t have the money for a full recall but will pay for a recall until the money runs out. Their lawyer estimates that could cover about 10 to 15 percent of the tires out there, adding, quote, “After that, unfortunately, everybody is on their own.”

    They suggest the Chinese manufacturer should step up and fund the recall. The manufacturer, Hangzhou, is the second largest tire maker in China.

    The NTSHA isn’t buying that argument, writing, “A company that chooses to import motor vehicles or motor vehicle equipment into this country, accepts the same responsibility for compliance with the Safety Act as any other manufacturer.”

    Connecticut attorney general Richard Blumenthal is contacting other states to remove the tires from sale.

    RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, CONNECTICUT STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL: States have an independent obligation. We can’t wait for the federal government if it fails to act aggressively and proactively. And that’s why we’re seizing the initiative. The sales should have stopped, because dealers are on notice.

    PILGRIM: But in the meantime, the U.S. consumer is at risk.

    PILGRIM: The senators cite numerous other dangerous products from China, writing to President Bush, you must demand the Chinese government take action to ensure the Chinese companies are not peddling dangerous products to our citizens — Lou. It’s pretty basic.

    DOBBS: Pretty basic. At the same time, the National Highway Traffic Safety folks look like they’re out of their minds. We’ve known about these problems. They’ve known about these problems now for some time.

    PILGRIM: They were notified June 11. No recall yet. And they have to — the company has to put forward a recall statement by July 2. So…

    DOBBS: The idea of doing the right thing is not going to overwhelm either, obviously, this distributor, our own national highway traffic safety agency, nor obviously the communist Chinese, who have exporting to us tainted pet food, poisoned toothpaste. They’ve just closed how many food factories — plants in..?

    PILGRIM: A hundred and eighty.

    DOBBS: A hundred and eighty in China. We’re getting reports that nearly every aspect of the process in China is polluted and toxic in some way and without any real oversight. Much like the United States, in terms of a lack of oversight.

  34. Donkey Kong says:

    Hey, Konop, if you had only waited 6 more days, you could have posted on the one year anniversary of the last post on this thread. I think you’re a bit tardy.

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