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  1. bowersville says:

    I watched this silly add from Reed earlier today at AJC around 3:30-4:00pm. Though I didn’t, I almost had to laugh, though I did smirk. It reminded my of the old style alley oop type comic strips with the enclosed captions with the arrows pointed at the speaker. How juvenile for a political add. I was smirking so loud within myself, I missed the point until Ralph rounded up the usual Republican suspects. “I’ll lower your taxes,” “I’ll protect your property rights,” Now Ralph you’re funny! Maybe you need to take Luckovich’s place at the AJC. Or maybe better yet, get in the funny papers, you are hilarious!!!

  2. Maurice Atkinson says:

    Time to ante up. Received my propaganda flier from Ralph yesterday. It is totally annoying.

  3. Demonbeck says:

    So wait a second, as Chairman and a member of the Senate Finance Committee, Casey Cagle actually sponsored five bills and voted 33 times? My word! The nerve of a member of a comittee voting on and sponsoring bills under that committee’s purview.

    What’s next? The Appropriations Committee writing a budget? Shame on you Senator Hill!

  4. HSC Republican says:

    Is there any reason to think that no other banks benefited from these bills? Were they passed for just Casey? Could his bank growing be from the growing economy in Ga? I think Ralph is just a jelouse since he does not have a record of his own?

    I would still like to see where is the proof that Reed is a conservative? Where are his votes? Bush told the Senate to truse Harriet Myers, but they could not because she did not have a record. It is the same deal with Reed!

  5. buzzbrockway says:

    Allow me to interrupt the Casey Cagle lovefest to say I think Ralph’s ad is effective. Actually, I think they’re both effective ads.

    Casey can answer Ralph’s charge, but probably not in a 30 second ad or in a mailer, which makes Ralph’s ad effective. The same is true of Casey’s ad. Ralph can answer the charges, but it’s difficult to boil down to a few sentences.

  6. Demonbeck says:

    By Reed’s logic, I think the Governor should not be allowed to help out the State of Georgia, because he himself is from Georgia and may actually benefit from his own actions. Instead, I nominate Governor Jon Corzine to act on our behalf. I am sure he would do a wonderful job of ensuring that no one benefits from their stature as an elected official.

  7. Bill B. says:

    This is a perfect example of what they call in texas – all hat and no saddle.

    Where’s the podcast with his vision? “Coming Soon”

    Why? Because he has no vision – only hate and negativity.

    This kind of politics as usual will be rejected by the voters. It may work well in smoke-filled back rooms, but it doesn’t reach the voters.

    From the Cagle’s website:
    As a continuing example of Casey’s leadership in innovation and creativity, Casey Cagle is one of the first Republican candidates in the nation to provide PodCasts for voters and consituents across Georgia. Casey’s future PodCasts will include his Vision for Georgia, His plan for Opportunity, and his Voice on the critical issues facing our families. Casey will also keep us informed about what is happening on the campaign trail and on the front lines of his revolutionary campaign for Lt. Governor.

    Casey’s First PodCast:
    Coming Soon!

  8. debbie0040 says:

    Setting the Record Straight
    Cagle Lie: Reed took millions of dollars to help casinos.
    The Truth: Reed helped close illegal casinos and protected families from the ill effects of gambling.
    Ralph has opposed gambling in 26 states. His work closed or prevented from opening nine illegal casinos. The work he did was entirely consistent with his moral opposition to gambling. (Gwinnett Daily Post, June 23, 2005)
    According to the Attorney General of Alabama, the legislation that Reed helped defeat would have led “to the vast expansion of casino-type gambling throughout Alabama.

  9. BlackVoters says:

    I was told to go to this blog and see the white republicans bash Ralph Reed. It am going to be sure that
    the black community rallies behind Ralph Reed. He has fought with us for 20 years to protect our families and our Christian values. It is clear that the good ole boys in the senate are siding with Cagle. Reed is our choice.
    If Cagle wins the Republican Primary- We will vote democrat in The General. If REED wins – We will support
    him. We smell a rat! That rat is a redneck with a nascar fettish. Let’s burn the checkered flag and raise the American and the Christian flag. Reed has the Black Vote!

  10. Bull Moose says:

    Oh good God Debbie… Now the Senate Finance Committee is going to be looking into Ralph’s actions… And it’s still being investigated by the Justice Department.

    Come to your right mind woman.

    Hands down, Casey Cagle is the more qualified candidate for this position. He will win and serve with character and integrity and do Georgia proud. Casey Cagle is a public servant in the model of Johnny Isakson.

  11. debbie0040 says:

    I am in my right mind. I am voting for Ralph Reed. I can see why Cagle wants to be Lt. Governor. If he increased his wealth 900% while serving as a State Senator on the Senate Banking Committee, imagine what he could do as Lt. Governor.

  12. Bull Moose says:

    Demonbeck, I love your sense of humor on these things. I share in your sentiment. If you endorse Ralph and Debbie’s logic, all of our legislators need to stop legislating and representing us in the legislature.

    You know, given Ralph Reed’s logic, we are now supposed to vote against Eric Johnson. Given Ralph Reed’s logic, we should oppose the Governor for reelection. What’s next?

  13. debbie0040 says:

    What Cagle did was above the norm.

    June 13th edition of Savannah Now
    Cagle: Everybody does it
    Cagle is correct in noting that many Georgia legislators are active on committees and in legislation affecting their businesses and professions.

    Rep. Tom Bordeaux, D-Savannah, a trial lawyer, used to chair the House Judiciary Committee, which had life-and-death authority over bills affecting trial lawyers.

    Reps. Ron Stephens, R-Savannah, and Buddy Carter, R-Pooler, are pharmacists and members of a pharmacy caucus active on bills involving the industry.

    Carter is secretary of the Health and Human Services Committee, chaired by Sharon Cooper, R-Marietta, a medical administrator.

    The list goes on.

    Yet the number of Cagle fingerprints on bills regarding matters that affect his business interests seems above average.

    If, as Alexander implies, it isn’t, maybe we need to rethink the way we do things in Atlanta.

    Probably with good reason, almost no one wants to go the California route. And, sure, the Legislature revised ethics laws last year. But, if Cagle’s practices are indeed the norm, maybe it’s not too early to go back to the well.

    Bill Bozarth, director of the Common Cause Georgia political ethics watchdogs group, thinks so.

    Bozarth’s not willing to single out Cagle for condemnation.

    “He’s doing what a lot of people do to some extent,

  14. Maurice Atkinson says:

    FACT CHECK: REED ATTACK ON

    CAGLE ETHICS IS FALSE

    Gainesville, GA – Ralph Reed has launched a new attack in his campaign to cover up his own record of unethical conduct by attacking Senator Casey Cagle. Following is a point by point Fact Check on Ralph’s latest attack:

    Ralph’s Attack : “When Cagle joined the Senate Banking Committee – he started a bank.”

    The FACTS : Casey Cagle has never run the day-to-day operations of a bank as Ralph’s ad implies. Casey did invest his own personal funds in a community bank that formed in Hall County in 1998, which was a natural outgrowth of his successful involvement for the previous decade in retail sales and real estate investment. (Source: Cagle Personal Financial Disclosure, 2006).

    Ralph’s Attack : “Stating that he would abstain from votes benefiting his bank business.”

    The FACTS : Cagle promised to abstain from any votes benefiting the bank he serves on the board of, and has done so. The clear standard in the Senate rules is that abstention is only required for cases where there is a personal conflict of interest, a provision Cagle has followed. In fact, he abstained from a vote that would have changed the timeline for selling a recently founded community bank (Source: Georgia State Senate Rules, SB 532).

    Ralph’s Attack : “But Cagle sponsored five bills and cast thirty-three votes benefiting banks.”

    The FACTS : The list of bills Reed provides to support this claim is completely erroneous. First, several of the bills do not even relate to banking. For example, four of the votes Ralph cites prevent local governments from setting separate minimum wages and the bank Casey is involved with employs no individuals at the minimum wage. And, four other bills increased the penalties for criminals who use computers and mortgage fraud to steal from others. In each and every case, the legislation Ralph mentions accomplished positive benefits for Georgians and did not personally benefit Casey or directly benefit the bank in which he is a shareholder and director (HB 59, SB 127, SB 100, HB 1258).

    Ralph’s Attack : “He increased his bank stock nine hundred percent.”

    The FACTS : Casey invested a large portion of his personal savings in a local community bank, and took a huge risk in order to do so. Over the next several years, the housing market and overall economy in Hall county grew rapidly, earning a strong return on Casey’s investment. The overall rate of growth of this particular bank stock is comparable to the return numerous other community bank stocks across metro Atlanta have realized during eight years of consistent economic and housing growth. Thousands of other Georgians have earned similar rates of return by making wise investments in community banks.

    Ralph’s Attack : “Asked about his ethical conflicts – Millionaire Cagle said “everybody does it.”

    The FACTS : First, Ralph Reed has a lot of nerve attacking Casey Cagle for being a millionaire, considering he has earned more than twice as much money in half as much time and lives in a gated country club with armed security. And, Ralph did it not by making wise investments, but by selling out the conservatives he claimed to represent at the Christian Coalition to the highest bidder. Secondly, Casey never said the words “everybody does it,” as Ralph alleges. Casey did say that Georgia has a citizen legislature where farmers vote on agriculture policy, business owners vote on tax issues, and retirees vote on pension legislation. Casey supports Georgia’s citizen legislature and does not believe we should replace it with a full-time California-style legislature.

    Ralph’s Attack : “As head of the Christian Coalition and Georgia Republican Party, I worked to spread our values.”

    The FACTS : Ralph did worthwhile work at the Christian Coalition. However, as soon as he left, he proceeded to take the contacts, reputation and mailing lists from the Coalition and sell them to everything from gambling casinos to major corporations.

    Ralph’s Attack : “As Lt. Governor I’ll work to strengthen families, for stronger schools and I’ll fight higher taxes.”

    The FACTS : Ralph has no record of public service and has never voted on anything. However, given his past record of lying, there is little reason to believe he will keep the promises he is throwing around in this race.

  15. Bull Moose says:

    Ralph Reed has launched a new attack in his campaign to cover up his own record of unethical conduct by attacking Senator Casey Cagle. Following is a point by point Fact Check on Ralph’s latest attack:

    Ralph’s Attack : “When Cagle joined the Senate Banking Committee – he started a bank.”

    The FACTS : Casey Cagle has never run the day-to-day operations of a bank as Ralph’s ad implies. Casey did invest his own personal funds in a community bank that formed in Hall County in 1998, which was a natural outgrowth of his successful involvement for the previous decade in retail sales and real estate investment. (Source: Cagle Personal Financial Disclosure, 2006).

    Ralph’s Attack : “Stating that he would abstain from votes benefiting his bank business.”

    The FACTS : Cagle promised to abstain from any votes benefiting the bank he serves on the board of, and has done so. The clear standard in the Senate rules is that abstention is only required for cases where there is a personal conflict of interest, a provision Cagle has followed. In fact, he abstained from a vote that would have changed the timeline for selling a recently founded community bank (Source: Georgia State Senate Rules, SB 532).

    Ralph’s Attack : “But Cagle sponsored five bills and cast thirty-three votes benefiting banks.”

    The FACTS : The list of bills Reed provides to support this claim is completely erroneous. First, several of the bills do not even relate to banking. For example, four of the votes Ralph cites prevent local governments from setting separate minimum wages and the bank Casey is involved with employs no individuals at the minimum wage. And, four other bills increased the penalties for criminals who use computers and mortgage fraud to steal from others. In each and every case, the legislation Ralph mentions accomplished positive benefits for Georgians and did not personally benefit Casey or directly benefit the bank in which he is a shareholder and director (HB 59, SB 127, SB 100, HB 1258).

    Ralph’s Attack : “He increased his bank stock nine hundred percent.”

    The FACTS : Casey invested a large portion of his personal savings in a local community bank, and took a huge risk in order to do so. Over the next several years, the housing market and overall economy in Hall county grew rapidly, earning a strong return on Casey’s investment. The overall rate of growth of this particular bank stock is comparable to the return numerous other community bank stocks across metro Atlanta have realized during eight years of consistent economic and housing growth. Thousands of other Georgians have earned similar rates of return by making wise investments in community banks.

    Ralph’s Attack : “Asked about his ethical conflicts – Millionaire Cagle said “everybody does it.”

    The FACTS : First, Ralph Reed has a lot of nerve attacking Casey Cagle for being a millionaire, considering he has earned more than twice as much money in half as much time and lives in a gated country club with armed security. And, Ralph did it not by making wise investments, but by selling out the conservatives he claimed to represent at the Christian Coalition to the highest bidder. Secondly, Casey never said the words “everybody does it,” as Ralph alleges. Casey did say that Georgia has a citizen legislature where farmers vote on agriculture policy, business owners vote on tax issues, and retirees vote on pension legislation. Casey supports Georgia’s citizen legislature and does not believe we should replace it with a full-time California-style legislature.

    Ralph’s Attack : “As head of the Christian Coalition and Georgia Republican Party, I worked to spread our values.”

    The FACTS : Ralph did worthwhile work at the Christian Coalition. However, as soon as he left, he proceeded to take the contacts, reputation and mailing lists from the Coalition and sell them to everything from gambling casinos to major corporations.

    Ralph’s Attack : “As Lt. Governor I’ll work to strengthen families, for stronger schools and I’ll fight higher taxes.”

    The FACTS : Ralph has no record of public service and has never voted on anything. However, given his past record of lying, there is little reason to believe he will keep the promises he is throwing around in this race.

  16. Maurice Atkinson says:

    FACT CHECK: CASEY CAGLE HAS NEVER VOTED AGAINST PROPERTY OWNERS

    Gainesville, GA – True to form, an increasingly desperate Ralph Reed launched an attack ad as his first TV spot of the campaign. Reed continues to fall behind in the polls, and is widely expected to run an increasingly negative and desperate campaign between now and July 18th.

    Reed’s first ad begins by attacking Cagle for legislation that “authorized government to condemn private property.” (Source: Ralph Reed attack ad, June 27, 2006). However, the truth is that Cagle has NEVER in 12 years voted to expand eminent domain or condemnation powers for any purpose. In fact, Casey SUPPORTED the toughest anti-eminent domain legislation in the country which passed the Senate this year:

    First, Casey helped lead the effort to pass the strongest legislation to prevent eminent domain abuses in the entire country. That legislation has already been enacted and is protecting property in Georgia today. Additionally, Casey pushed hard to pass the constitutional amendment that will be on the ballot this fall to protect private property (SB 86, HB 1313, HR 1306, 2006).

    Most of the quotes Ralph is using to attack Casey do not relate to the bill he cites (SB 273) at all. Instead, they are taken from newspaper stories describing an entirely different bill (SB 5) that Casey Cagle OPPOSED. Not only did Cagle oppose SB 5, he also helped lead the effort to pass some of the toughest private property protections in the entire country through the Senate this year.

    In terms of the actual bill Ralph’s false attack references, it did not expand eminent domain powers nor did it transfer them to private entities. In fact, the entire GOP Senate caucus voted in favor of SB 273 because it will create a public-private partnership structure for critically needed transportation projects to move forward. With this attack, Reed is criticizing literally every member of the Republican caucus in the State Senate for voting in favor of a bill that passed 47-3, and standing against relieving traffic congestion in metro Atlanta (SB 273, April 7, 2003).

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    Casey Cagle for Lt. Governor
    “The Conservative Leader Georgians Trust.”
    770-536-9998

  17. BlackVoters says:

    Debbie- we are with you! These mountain boys stick together.Their idea of ” the hood” is what they wear to a lynching. Looks like they think they are doing a pretty damn good job at lynching Reed. I am afraid it will bite them in the backside. They have no idea how they are waking up the sleepy black voters. We saw that Georgia Equality is backing Cagle. The gays are afraid of Reed. They fear the Christian vote. Well it’s time for a showdown! We are ready to vote in the GOP Primaries too.
    On July 19th, I hope everyone will lick their wounds and back Reed and Sonny!

  18. northside elephant says:

    I think that it is utterly pathetic that a Reed supporter or campaign worker finds it neccesary to create the “BlackVoters” identity!

    Typical race-baiting from Reed talking about lynchings and hoods?!!

    The “BlackVoters” postings are complete BS and obviously fake.

  19. BlackVoter4Cagle says:

    Debbie- you are an idiot! These sugar loaf millionaires stick together.Their idea of

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