Interesting

On Capital Gang this morning, they are suggesting that all the AJC stories that were very negative toward Ralph Reed have actually helped Reed in the Republican primary. Bob Barr suggests that no one knows who Casey Cagle is. Bill Shipp says that Casey’s biggest problem is that he is not Ralph Reed.

Go on and chime in. You know you want to.

33 comments

  1. 4ofspades says:

    I think Shipp was suggesting that Casey would be the anti-Reed vote, and that could be a good thing.

  2. Chris says:

    Cagle had an opportunity to get himself alot of press as a member of the Senate leadership but I heard nothing from him during the last session.

    I still think there will be a large anti-reed crossover vote. I talk to Democrats and Independents and they all think 1) Sonny will win and 2) they will vote for Cagle in July. Interestingly – and good for Casey – they say “I’m voting for Cagle” not “I’m voting for Reed’s opponent”.

    I usually keep my mouth shut when talking to Democrats and don’t say that Ralph winning could be one of the best things to happen to the GA Democrats. Ralph will alienate alot of moderates.

    None of you Democrats on this blog saw that. mmkay? 🙂

  3. larry smith says:

    The Georgia Gang gets, what, like three viewers per episode? WAGA only carries it because it has to run an hour of public service programming each week to meet its FCC obligations. The panelists appear for free, and you definitely get what you pay for.

    On the actualy point itself, I am sure if Ralph had the option of either getting gutted in 25 AJC stories or not getting gutted in 25 AJC stories, he’d take the former. Sure, he’ll gain a few nuts who think the entire media is one vast left-wing conspiracy, but he’ll lose far more than that. And, he probably had the nuts in the first place.

    Frankly, it’s pretty idiotic to suggest otherwise. But hey, it’s the Georgia Gang!

  4. Jack S says:

    Uhhh, gopers will vote for reed cause the ajc has exposed his corruption.

    Yeah right, that’s why cagle went from being a nobody to leading the race and ralph’s negative ratings have gone thru the roof.

    Yeah, sure.

    Corruption is corruption. Doesn’t matter who exposes it.

  5. Erick says:

    Jack,
    That was kind of my thought. Sure, the AJC is not popular with the GOP base — but how long can the drum beat go on before it starts hurting?!

  6. Nativeson says:

    Larry, that’s not true. The panelists on Georgia Gang get paid — it used to be about $175 per episode.

  7. GAPeach says:

    I’m with Spades.. I think Shipp was suggesting Cagle’s biggest advantage was that he wasn’t Reed

  8. Maurice Atkinson says:

    Erick, it is hurting. Ralph has lost a chunk of his base. There are some who look past the corruption. I don’t understand how they justify it, but they do. Guess I am just naive but I thought integrity mattered.

  9. Jack S says:

    I got that call from the christian coalition guy endorsing cagle and he said it best – character does matter.

    I sat there listening to that message and said “amen, brother!”.

  10. Maurice Atkinson says:

    Well, the Christian Coalition guy just got stripped of his leadership role in the organization. Dave did a tremendous work.

  11. The Busdriver says:

    Sure, Shipp said that. But immediately afterward he said, “And I’m concerned that if President Nixon doesn’t come clean, his administration may be in deep trouble.”

  12. Bull Moose says:

    Casey is clearly leading in this race.

    You’d almost have to be crazy to think that good honest people are going to turn out and vote for someone who lacks character and integrity.

    I think Georgia is smarter than that, or at least I hope so.

  13. debbie0040 says:

    Bullmoose, you are just making up facts as you go along or outright lying again as you did when you said internal Reed campaign polls showed Cagle ahead. Really pathetic.

    Cagle is the one that lacks character. That is all coming to light…

    Reed has not lost his base. Just wishful thinking on the part of the Cagle cabal.

    Dave overstepped his bounds and authority by implying the Christian Coalition endorsed Cagle. Just goes to show that the Cagle team is not concerned about facts or truth.

    Voters will see Reed has not been charged with amy crime. Voters will see how the liberal press has constantly attacked Bush and Cheney. Voters will see National GOP leaders like Rudy, Sean, Newt, Haley, and others supporting Reed. They will see Zell has endorsed both Reed and Gov. Perdue. They will correctly surmise there is nothing to the allegations and the Cagle campaign has been deliberately spreading false rumors.

    Voters will see left wing, liberal extreme groups running ads on behalf of Cagle to stop Reed. Voters will see that gays are going to cross over and vote for Cagle to stop Reed.

    Think for a minute, what do you honestly think the outcome will be?

  14. Demonbeck says:

    Debbie,

    Tell us, did you enjoy your time at indoctrination camp last week? Were you a camper or a counselor this time?

  15. SouthernConservative says:

    “Dave did a tremendous work.” Tell me, Maurice, what exactly did the Christian Coalition of Middle Georgia do? Eh? Tell me what they did to help the GOP in those 27 Middle Georgia counties.

    One example.

  16. Maurice Atkinson says:

    Help the GOP? The CC is supposed to be non-partisan. What they did do, and David was key, is build a network of individuals within churches and synagogues to recruit people to get involved in the political process.

    Dave approached the organization at a more principled approach. What I’ve seen on the statewide level has been nothing more than a caucus of Republicans. I’ve mentioned this to several who have been involved in the organization that I felt they would be better served conducting their operation in that manner. David is a good man with a big heart and works diligently to be effective.

    It may not have been quite appropriate stating that he was Chairman, but the precidence had been set by the Chairman. I’m sure he’s not crushed by this.

  17. Bill B. says:

    Who hates real Republicans (not those RINOs like McCain and Specter)? The DNC, AJC, GAE, Mark Taylor, and the entire liberal media.

    Who supports Cagle? Howard Dean came down and did an anti-Ralph speech (I think at a Cagle single-moms rally), AJC, GAE (endorsed him!), Mark Taylor (well they support each other don’t they?) and the entire liberal media.

    Hmmmm? Who must not be a real Republican? Cagle is a RINO.

  18. Maurice Atkinson says:

    From an email exchange over the weekend with a “Pro Family Leader”, “I commend you for your strong convictions and I think you have made a fine choice in Casey Cagle. He is an outstanding man, fine Christian, and would make a great Lt. Gov.”

    So which is it?

  19. Bill Simon says:

    Bill B.

    It’s no wonder you use your initial rather than your last name. You sound like a complete imbecile and you don’t want people you see every day to know it.

  20. Bill B. says:

    Bill,
    So you are saying Cagle isn’t endorsed by the liberal teacher’s union GAE?

    Or are you saying Cagle didn’t donate $1000 to Mark Taylor’s campaign?

    Or perhaps that the AJC’s liberal bias is not known to every real Republican and they are clearly behind Cagle?

    Could it be you have forgotten Howard Dean’s speech against Reed or did you not attend that Cagle/Taylor Fundraiser?

    From one imbecile Bill to another 😉

  21. Demonbeck says:

    Bill B.,

    Ralph Reed has a much longer list of misdeeds that prove he isn’t a Christian. Should we be claiming that he is a CINO?

    Is that what the Christian Coalition has stooped to? A bunch of Christians In Name Only supporting other CINOs?

  22. Bill B. says:

    Demon (nice choice of a name to talk about Christianity),

    Misdeeds like fake prayer in photos? Or inviting photographers into your church to distract from the worship of God and put the focus on a candidate? Or lying about a threat from the current LG?

    I could go on, but you get the picture.

  23. Demonbeck says:

    Bill B.,

    Do I really need to bring up all the misdeeds Moneychanger Ralph made “in the name of the Lord”?

    How about I just focus on one? Promoting prostitution in the Mariana Islands.

    “Thou shalt have no others gods before Me” includes the worship of money.

  24. Bill B. says:

    Before you deal with Reed’s splinter, check out the plank in Cagle’s eye. Bankers love and work with what? Money!

    By offering himself for LG and having run for Majority Leader, Senate, etc. Cagle obviously wants what? Power!

  25. Demonbeck says:

    “Reed’s splinter”? Turning a blind eye to the conditions of Chinese women being forced into prostitution in order to make a buck is hardly a splinter in my Bible.

    (Of course, one could say that Reed knows the art of luring “John’s” quite well.)

    My God, what kind of perverted world do you Reed supporters live in?

  26. Bill Simon says:

    The one where the concept of “turn the other cheek” has been redefined by Ralphie to be “Lie to them and they will follow you everywhere…”

  27. Demonbeck says:

    You know, I finally figured out the difference between Reed supporters and Cagle supporters. Reed supporters and their candidate only care about one type of person and would like every Republican to be a carbon copy of one another. Cagle Republicans are “big tent” people and would like to see our party grow to include those who adhere to our party’s basic tenets.

    Frankly, I would like to see Republicans remain in powerand lose the stereotype that Reed caters to.

  28. bowersville says:

    And the root of all sin is the love of mammon, that explains the $4.2 million paid to Reed to stamp out casino gambling doesn’t it? Does it cost this much money to save innocent children?

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