1. Demonbeck says:

    Ralph’s head size versus his body size in the cartoon is way out of proportion. His head is much larger than that in real life.

  2. George Allen 08 says:

    It’s funny. The effectiveness of it with the average Georgia voter is debatable. However, it’ll get a good laugh out of those of us who actually pay attention to politics.

  3. larry smith says:

    I am waiting for Ralph to open a chain of roasted chicken restaurants. I believe that one Gambler can succeed where another one failed.

    Wonder if Michael Jackson will sue Cagle for infringement or endorse Ralph? After all, it wouldn’t be the first time Ralph has done business with a child molestor!

  4. debbie0040 says:

    I hope the Cagle campaign keeps spending their money on immature attacks cartoons and sites.

    That is the essence of the Cagle Campaign, attack Ralph
    Reed. Remember what happened in the Virginia Governor’s race when the GOP candidate went extremely negative as Cagle is doing?

  5. George Allen 08 says:

    I’ll take grassroots campaigning over computer gimmickry any day of the week.

  6. larry smith says:

    Debbie and George,

    You can call Stoneridge and ask them, but you’re talking about roughly a thousand bucks to do a site like this. So, less than half of one percent of Cagle’s total budget.

    The main difference is that Casey has some real creative and innovative punch on his team, while Ralph has a bunch of has-beens who are living in the early 1980s technologically.

    This site is showing up all over the Internet. And, just because team Cagle is doing one thing doesn’t mean that they aren’t doing another. They are knocking just as many doors and making more phone calls than Reed.

  7. Three Jack says:

    If you can’t have fun at the expense of Ralph, then why stay involved. Great job again by the boys at Stoneridge.

    Meanwhile Ralph sends out another boring ‘On the Road with Ralph’ release today. Wonder which piece gets more attention??

  8. The Busdriver says:


    Your thoughts on the VA gubernatorial race (which you totally lifted from someone who posted immediately after you on the AJC thread about the video), are not at all analogous.

    First of all that contest was in the general election, not the primary-it was GOP versus Dem. And in that case the Republican nominee, Jerry Kilgore, the Attorney General, made somewhat over-the-top charges against the Democrat nominee, Tim Kaine. Kilgore got in trouble because one of his most aggressive negative ads was found to be a less than accurate and generally unbelievable. Kilgore was a lousy candidate anyway, and like Ralph, he was known to offer a number of different opinions on a single issue.

    But the really big difference between the VA race and the Ralph video is that everything in the Ralph video has been substantiated and documented.

  9. George Allen 08 says:

    Then let Team Cagle continue to impress the AJC and the political pundits out there. Luckily, in this country, the media doesn’t elect politicians–the people do.

  10. The Busdriver says:

    Grassroots campaigning, Allen ’08? They must have changed the definition.

    Grassroots Campaign (n) : 1. A campaign in which one offers no clue to his/her next public appearance, so as to avoid all journalists. 2. To employ the use of a antiquated and outdated web presence. 3. To organize strategy events in which 10-15 people attend. 4. To overstate your influence among conservative voters. 5. To elist the assistance of one sole crazy woman who will repeatedly post nonsensical blather on your behalf on political blogs.

  11. larry smith says:

    That pretty much sums up the Reed strategy.

    Or, at least that and lying your ass off every time you open your mouth.

  12. Demonbeck says:

    Yes, but the people read newspapers and glean information on the races from them. Are you so naive to think that most voters actually take the time to visit a candidate’s website and review each candidate’s position?

    The fact of the matter is that positive media buzz attracts attention towards a particular candidate and puts him in a good light. Right now, that is the name of the game.

  13. jacewalden says:


    For anyone interested, I found out why Debbie actually likes Reed so much. It has nothing to do with him being a “fighter” or Cagle being a wuss.

    Just read the thread on Gay marriage, and you’ll find out as well.

  14. Jack S says:

    Just read an article which quotes the chair of the RNC saying that the days of trying to get volunteers to go door to door and do phone banks are over. That the winner of the modern campaign emphasizes new technologies like the web and text messaging and email.

    hmmmm……apparently Ralph missed the memo.

  15. George Allen 08 says:

    Perhaps the outcome of the lt gov election will show whether those days are actually over. I just can’t imagine the average voter (outside of Metro Atlanta) sending and receiving text messages about their favorite politicians.

  16. debbie0040 says:

    A fellow Ralph Reed supporter/Republican activist sent me this email she received today: It was from Nick Nyhart with Mother Jones, part of the Air America Network. Both left wing, bleeding heart liberal groups. Pretty pathetic that the Cagle campaign is in cahoots with these left wing groups. Don’t even try to deny it. How else would they have access to GOP activists emails unless Cagle gave it to them? I went to samspade.org and traced the pcactionfund.org domain name to Nick Nyhart. That was the domain name of the email address that appeared when you clicked on the link. It is all right there.

    From: David Donnelly, Public Campaign Action Fund
    Date: 05/17/06 15:15:04
    Subject: Hard-Hitting Ad Targets Ralph Reed’s Hypocrisy

    Ralph Reed’s relationship with convicted disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and his casino clients made Reed a very rich man. Now he’s running for Lieutenant Governor in Georgia, he doesn’t want anyone to know that he took the gambling money. That’s where we come in.
    On the eve of a major fundraiser, with Rudy Guiliani, for Reed in Atlanta on Thursday, Public Campaign Action Fund’s Campaign Money Watch project is launching a new radio ad to expose the hypocrisy of the real Ralph Reed.
    Help us run this ad in targeted counties in Georgia with a donation today.
    The ad is already running on several radio stations in Georgia with a large percentage of Republican listeners. With your support of $25, $50, $100 or more, we’ll extend this radio ad buy in order to reach more voters.
    Here’s part of the script:
    “Say, what would you think about someone who said ‘gambling is a cancer. It is stealing food from the mouths of children,’ and then turned around and took a $4 million job from casinos?
    “That’s what Ralph Reed did. And that’s not all. Working with convicted Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff, Ralph Reed used Christian groups as a front for his paying casino clients. That’s right, Ralph Reed hit the jackpot doing dirty work for casinos.
    “Whatever happened to practicing what you preach?”
    Listen to the full ad here.
    Recent polling shows the Reed is viewed unfavorably by 45% of Georgia’s Republican voters, but he is still leading his GOP primary opponent by six points. It is critical that voters hear the truth about Ralph Reed before he spends his millions glossing over his image and sweeping his corruption and hypocrisy under the rug.
    Please contribute what you can to making sure Georgia’s voters know about the real Ralph Reed. After that, please spread the word by forwarding this email to others.
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  17. The Busdriver says:

    I’ll save you the eye strain that comes with trying to follow Debbie’s cut-and-paste job and just tell you that a group called Public Campaign Action Fund is running an ad on Christian and talk radio calling out Ralph Reed for his various hypocrisies.

    I don’t know about all the Cagle emails/Air America/Mother Jones conspiracy, but I try not to expend too much energy trying to process Debbie’s “down the rabbit hole” threads.

    If you want to listen to the ad, you can go to campaignmoney.org.

  18. jackson says:

    I left this post on the guilani-forbes thread. Thought it was more important here since ya’ll are talking about Grassroots campaigns. I agree with whoever said, Just because you do one, doesnt mean you cant do another.


    Did anyone notice this yesterday? It might have got lost in the shuffle, but very interesting….

    That jared guy from Ralph Reeds campaign said they “knocked on 1000 doors in 20 counties

  19. George Allen 08 says:

    I believe the email they sent out today said the grassroots just focused on Cobb County over the weekend. I would assume only the grassroots volunteers from Cobb County or the metro area would partake in that. Hope this helps your math jackson.

  20. George Allen 08 says:

    Good point jackson. Do you mind if I ask which newspaper you read that in? I missed that article.


    The ad war is on but that is just the beginning.. Ralphie and his little group of kool-aid junkies are going to get a taste of what intelligent people think of deceptive peddlers of hogwash..ha-ha these next few weeks are going to be FUN !!!!

  22. bowersville says:

    I think about a couple of other previous analogies also, “snake oil salesman,” “poring honey on manure,” the Reed supporters meshuga is still all crap and it will be FUN to hear the Reedies squeal.

  23. jackson says:

    George Allen, it was in the AJC article about the Casey Cagle cartoon video. The political insider. It was their quote about why they werent doing internet.

    Which gets me to MORE math……

    They said 20 Counties. They said 1000 doors. So, lets just ASSUME the had at least 2 people in each of these counties volunteering. That’s 40 volunteers (out of 5600 – less than 1%). How many doors is that? That is 25 doors for each volunteer. Basically an hour of volunteering.

    DOES ANYBODY GET THIS? They are just making up numbers and pulling them out of their butt. I dont think they realized it when they said it but this doesnt add up. Why are they lying about their volunteer efforts if they have such a great grassroots group?

    They had a “come one, come all” Grassroots training that they even invited ME to but only 50 people show. Then we hear excuses like it was only for leaders (yeah, right) and that it was in a bad location (whos fault is that?). Then they just make up a story that they knocked on all these doors (not really alot) in 20 counties. It just doesnt make sense for this supposed Grassroots machine.

  24. McCain-Rice\'08 says:

    I think that video was hillarious..and it is completeley true, I guess Debbie considers shows like “SNL” Immature…or what about the John Kerry wind surffing commercial was that “immature” too..and what about the one where John Kerry voted to raise the gas tax by 50 cents, let me guess..”immature” also..My point is sometimes funny commercials like these that have facts to back the statements up can be effective.

    And let me just say that I have no problem with the Cagle campaign reaching out to our leftward leaning friends, if they want to give him a boost by “cross over voting” for Cagle and pullin the old “Majette v. McKinney” Im fine with that, every vote helps.

  25. bowersville says:

    I realy get it, although they aren’t pulling them out of their but, they are pulling them out of their *ss.

  26. Jack S says:

    OK, here’s the challenge I think Peach Pundit should issue.

    Peach Pundit should challenge the Reed campaign to have their supposed grassroots machine come on this site. register and post that they are a reed grassroots volunteer.

    If someone will go out and knock on doors for you on a saturday, Ralph, surely they will come on a website and say i’m a proud Ralph supporter.

    Shouldn’t be hard to do at all for a huge grassroots operation with all the supposed emails and conference calls they’re doing.

    Ralph Reed is a liar. He could barely muster 100 people to show up at a Christian Coalition event. He didn’t knock on 1,000 anything. He has no grassroots support outside of a couple of dozen GOP activist wackos.

    He can easily prove otherwise. Post on Pundit, Ralph Grassroots Team That Doesn’t Exist.

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