Some more food for thought.

http://www.h1b.info/

Thanks jk

The source was AEA, posted on ZaZona site. Second they sited the # ’s associated with the statistic. So if the # is wrong prove it.

As far as Warren Buffet the original free trade argument was that NAFTA would lower illegai immigration, create trade surplus and raise wages in Mexico and America. Instead it has created the sell – out of America brick by brick. Tom Price and Congress sold us out to communist China after NAFTA , with CAFTA and not reforming WTO. Both parties would debate trade and immigration as one policy until it blew up. Read for yourself.

http://www.issues2000.org/Celeb/Ross_Perot_Immigration.htm

Also for that 9 out of 10 bullshit statistic you gave earlier.
http://uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statistics/publications/FSEmployBasedLPR2004.pdf
LPR’s admitted into the country that are computer/math scientists and technicians were 12,377. I hardly think that displaces 1 million American workers.

Also if we have a labor shortage why are wages not going up ?This is a new twist on supply and demand. Thanks jk

http://www.forbes.com/2006/01/18/buffett-deficit-economy-cx_cn_0118autofacescan02.html

As far as my I.T. statement this is the source.

http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/JDNewsArchive/2002/2002-06-28_9%20Out%20of%20Every%2010%20ComputerIT%20Jobs%20Went%20to%20H-1Bs.txt

The biggest reason that 42.8 million americans don’t have health care is because they cannot afford it. Not because of money that may or may not be spent on health insurance for immigrants. To say that those small amount of people account for the health care crisis, hardly. I believe that you are trying to blame immigrants for all the problems in America right now. Here is some info from one of the Congressional Budget Office’s hearings on immigration by Holtz-Eakin.

“It has benefits for the United States in the form of additional members of the labor force and the skills that they bring, and also their consuming patterns as households.”

“Let me just say that the final impact, which has attracted so much attention, is the impact of immigration on wages of the native born. And it might seem obvious that the arrival of more workers would reduce their wages, but in the survey of the research, the CBO came to the conclusion that the ultimate impact is very difficult to quantify. And this is a tribute to the flexibility of the American labor market in which there are a variety of adjustments that can take place in response to an influx of immigration. Additional capital and incentives for the native born to acquire more education are two of those key adjustments. And the horizon over which one looks also matters, direct impacts versus those 10 years later. For either the foreign born or the native born, education is the dominant characteristic for success in the labor market. If you look, first, just at counting bodies, the striking fact is that the native-born population in the United States has a below replacement rate level of fertility, so that mechanically, in the absence of immigration, the population will not grow; in fact, it will decline.

The characteristic that matters the most in the labor market is education, for example. The next generation (of immigrants) looked much more like the native born and as a result the skills that they will have are more dictated by what they do here than their country of origin.

BOEHNER: Would my colleague yield for a moment? I want to get to the point of what Mr. Miller is bringing out here, just as a basis for where our economy is going in the future. We’ve got the largest generation in American history on the verge of retirement, and we’re going to live longer, healthier, more productive lives than any generation in history. But we’re followed by succeeding smaller generations of Americans. And if we’re going to see growth in our economy and growth in GDP, we don’t have a domestic labor force in order to support that. Is that the point that you’re making?

HOLTZ-EAKIN: You’ve got three things going in to get more coming out. It’s people, capital and technologies. And if the labor force doesn’t grow, it’s going to be much more difficult to get comparable levels of overall economic expansion in the future.

This is later.

HOLTZ-EAKIN: The Social Security Administration has a fund where it has earnings records that it can’t match up with beneficiaries, either present or in the future, and the presumption is that fund reflects the contributions of those who are here illegally who are paying Social Security taxes, and it has accumulated over the years to be a large sum of money — over $400 billion.

They later go on to say that one of the biggest problems is that the Federal government gets more that 2/3’s of the taxes collected by all immigrants, which is about 90 billion dollars a year — their figures not mine. And the state pay’s 3/4th the costs for all immigrants. So the problem is that the federal government is getting the money that would offset all the problems the states are having with immigrants.

Also we can not have a visa program that pays immigrants 13k less a year for the exact same job. This has killed the tech sector for I.T. workers. We have 1 million I.T workers looking for jobs while 9 out 10 are filled by immigrants visa program. This policy is a race to the bottom.

The status quo is unacceptable.

Manning the border is unrealistic.

Kicking them all out tomorrow would hurt the state (but would save expenses from serving illegals)

Amnesty is not right, they are here illegally.

And tariffs on imports are the answer IMO.

Illegals paid in cash don’t contribute to the state’s coffers via the income tax, (could we adopt a state fair tax/ditch the income tax? and give only Ga citizens a refund?)

Work visas? That require a substantial monetary fee to acquire (and keep illegals from wanting to get one) or a minimal fee (that would not come close to offsetting their drain on our state infrastructure).

I hope that our legislature can work on this issue constructively and not completely polarize over the issue. But I’m not holding my breath.

Guess we’ll have to wait and see the details of the proposal next week.

You are right. The race to the bottom immigration and trade policy is driven by the money. Charlie Norwood statement is great to read to understand who is pushing the agenda.

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ga09_norwood/WTO.html

The AJC’s coverage of the most recent forum is available at:
http://www.johnkonop.com/060201AJCDeKalbpanel.php