Bill Stephens & Karen Handel

He’s raised $425,000.00, which his campaign points out is more than what Cathy Cox raised at this point in her last campaign. Karen Handel has raised $240,000.00.

27 comments

  1. Jack S says:

    yeah, but Stephens disclosure shows that karen outraised him this period – $240,000 to $178,000

    I don’t have a dog in this fight yet, but it’s not like Stephens killed her this period.

    looks like a very competitive fight all the way around.

  2. GAWire says:

    Raising more money than Cathy Cox? When was that? Five years ago, the average amount needed for a congressional race was half a mil. Now, $1 million is only a start for the most average Congressional races. This is a down-ticket race that many voters aren’t even aware of until they get in the booth.

    They all have amazing fundraising numbers, but comparing to the candidate how many ever years ago isn’t that meaningful.

  3. 4ofspades says:

    If you look at the numbers, Handel outraised everyone in the race this period, and raised the most of any candidate in the race in a single period.

    Handel out raised Stephens $240k – $179k, Reddy $240k to $191k. Stephens ran at $25k deficit this period. Reddy is sitting on the most cash ($290k), Handel second ($202k) and Stephens third ($155k).

  4. RonaldJFehr says:

    The Secretary of State Leaders Overall are as follows:
    Total contributions to date:
    Bill Stephens 398,600.05
    Shyam Reddy 334,600.42
    Angela Moore 252,541.32
    Karen Handel 240,647.00

    Cash on hand to date:
    Shyam Reddy 290,792.23
    Angela Moore 245,353.07
    Karen Handel 202,393.69
    Bill Stephens 154,842.75

    Expenses to date:
    Bill Stephens 243,757.30
    Shyam Reddy 43,808.19
    Karen Handel 38,253.31
    Angela Moore 7,188.25

    Money raised during filing period ending Dec 31:
    Karen Handel 240,647
    Angela Moore 198,050.50
    Shyam Reddy 190,794.23
    Bill Stephens 171,365.05

    There are a number of conclusions to be drawn from those numbers:
    1) The Democratic candidates have been flying under the radar and are to be taken seriously.
    2) Angela Moore has an expense report that should make any candidate jealous.
    3) Bill Stephens has lost a lot of momentum since jumping out in front of everyone with his June disclosure.
    4) Karen Handel has been hurt by joining the race last.

    There is more to it than that simple synopsis though. Obviously Karen Handel and Shyam Reddy are running the more realistic campaign models given their expenditures vs. the money that has been raised. They, along with Angela Moore, also have the advantage of raising money for the next few months while Bill Stephens cannot.

    Bill Stephens will be at a Cash on Hand figure close to $50 by the end of the session if he continues to spend money the way he has. Perhaps he has already purchased his yard signs and media – doubtful.

    Expect the players to be Reddy and Handel that emerge as the front runners in their respective parties by the end of the next disclosure period. The gap between Reddy and Moore would be larger if Angela Moore had not lent herself 25,000, and she will eventually have to start spending. While Reddy has not lent himself any money, he has received over 15,000 from family members. On the Republican side, it’s difficult to imagine Stephens convincing anyone that he is fiscally responsible looking at his expenses. By the end of the session he will be a lame duck Senator, and have zero leverage to exert on the lobbyist crowd that makes up the majority of his support.

    Final call on the race in November is too difficult based on financial figures alone, Perdue vs. Barnes is the perfect example. That said, Karen was the only candidate to raise over 200,000 this period and she did that easily. I expect she will eventually out raise the field. Using that as a barometer, and her support in Fulton County as Commission Chair, a traditionally Democratic county, she should beat Shyam Reddy in a close General Election.

  5. Decaturguy says:

    “Bill Stephens will be at a Cash on Hand figure close to $50 by the end of the session if he continues to spend money the way he has. Perhaps he has already purchased his yard signs and media –doubtful.”

    If you look at his disclosure it is heavy on staff, consultants, car leases, office rent, cell phones, gas, etc. Why does he need all of that at this point in the race? Looks like “Freespending Bill” is well on his way to spending a lot of money.

  6. Jackets over Dogs says:

    Hey Decaturguy and Ronald,
    News flash – Bill Stephens was the SENATE MAJORITY LEADER!!!!!

    That means a few things that you should all remember. He knows virtually everyone that will matter for this nomination, and even if he spends is way down to $50 on SUPERIOR CAMPAIGN STAFF and PREPERATION, he will be able to raise more money than anyone but Sonny before the primary- all respect to Casey. If Karen is so well respected in Fulton County how come Rusty Paul has come out for her opponent Sen. Stephens. Because he is the leader, he is the conservative and he is the next Secretary of State.

    Karen is endorsed by the Southern Voice. That should tell you that no matter how much money she raises she’ll never be elected outside of Atlanta. All the Republicans that know what a leader looks like have come to Bill Stephens’es side because they know he is the champoin of their values. Look at the Voter ID Bill, where is Karen on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE we face in Georgia right now.

    Bill Stephens has spent his money intelilgently in key areas such as consulting and fundraising expenses. He has bright staff and a great website. He is our future!!!!!!!

    Go Bill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. DoubleDawg3 says:

    I’ll go with the Techie on this one — I think Stephens is the best man or woman for the job. While I’ll admit that his cash on hand looks kind of bad, especially considering he’s going to be in the Senate unable to raise – I’m betting that he has enough contacts across the state to pull this one out — possibly in a runoff in Robert Lamutt gets into the race (as I believe Brian from the Beautiful Apple Country may be suggesting).

    Think about it this way – Stephens will almost undoubtedly pull large amounts of the vote in Cherokee (which could change if Lamutt gets into the race), Forsyth, Dawson, Lumpkin, Gilmer, Pickens, Fannin, and possibly Hall counties — ALL major GOP strongholds and if you add em up, a large % of the overall GOP vote. Factor that with the clear support he’ll have from Sen. Johnson, Williams, Hill, and other South GA legislators – who will help turn out the vote for him down there — I think that Stephens will be set if he can concentrate on a couple of other GOP counties around Atlanta – tie most of his money up there and wrap it up.

    Now, if Lamutt, or whoever this “mystery” man is really gets into the race and is willing to put 2-3million of their own money into winning a race for SOS – then good grief, let em have it. Who in the world is CRAZY ENOUGH to spend 2-3 million of their own cash for a job that pays what, $100K a year, with little public fanfare.

  8. Doubledawg,

    Pretty good analysis, cept one thing. Bill while gaining lots of respect for being leadership, has not added alot of trust to his persona.

    I am from Gilmer County, have been on the Congressional and County committees for the GOP up there since Bill was representing us. He is not trusted. Also when his Senate seat got redistricted into Cherokee/Forsyth, he took a promised 4 million dollar library to Ellijay with him.

    I like Bill personally. And think I would vote for him over Karen. (And I was a staffer for Karen on her Chairman raise.) But would prefer…your candidate…Lamutt.

    Lamutt has already invested 3 million into the Atlanta media market in the 04 campaign….for those who do not know the Atlanta media market is from TN to Clayton County to Alabama to Athens.

    Lamutt is from/ and has represented Cobb County and Cherokee County for 10 years.

    Lamutt has the means to both raise money–one thing he was forced to learn in last cycle, and has donors egar to get him elected again. And to put in a little money…how much? …ehhh, lets just say enough to double what Karen and Bill will raise together.

    This will be a media raise. The candidate with the most name ID when the voter goes into the poll will win. Cobb will guarantee a spot in the runoff with either Bill or Karen. Robert picks up the others supporters by virtue of being the conservative or the better known candidate to the area. If you remember Fulton County knows Robert very well also.

    The battle ground here will be Gwinnett, Paulding, and Forsyth.

  9. Jackets over Dogs says:

    I’ll lay it out there again, Ronald is a idiot of the highest degree. Let South Georgia hear about the Southern Voice and she is gone. I think Bill’ also bettter known around Atlanta than he is. He is under the Gold Dome every day, and where is she? There are more GOP votes in Cherokee County than of all Atlanta combined, and Bill has tons of people who can’t wait to work for him when the campaign really starts up. I think a landslide is in the works for MisHandle.

    The other wild card that people mention now is Lamutt. I think Bill wins without a run-off even is Lamutt gets in. Bill has been in the race too long, is too well known and will be able to raise more money than Lamutt could ever put in on his own. This race was over the day Stephens declared fro it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. 4ofspades says:

    Jackets – It would be nice if you really had your facts straight. Fulton has twice the number of republican voters as Cherokee, Cobb three times, and Gwinnett almost 3 times. Handel was never endorsed by SOVO.

    Doubledawg – Cherokee, Forsyth, Lumkin, Gilmer, Pickens, and Hall combined have about the same number of republican voters as Cobb. Sorry don’t have the numbers for Dawson & Fannin but they aren’t enough to have a huge impact

  11. Jackets over Dogs says:

    Hey 4, regadlses of what you just wrote, and claim as fact yourself anyone who knows anything can tell you that Bill STephens has the ability to turn voters out for a race like this. It will be decided on solid conservative ethics, and Stephens is by far the smarter choice hands down.

    The Stephens campaign just released this:

    Handel attacks Stephens and claims she “outraises the entire field” – yet trails a first-time, unelected Democrat by nearly $100,000

    Unknown Democrat Shyam Reddy outraises Fulton Chairwoman $334,000 to $240,000

    If Karen Handel counts votes the way she counts her campaign contributions, Georgia’s election machinery will be in questionable hands if she’s elected Secretary of State.

    Two days ago, Handel claimed to “outraise the entire field,” including Bill Stephens, in fundraising– in spite of the fact she trails Stephens by over $150,000 in money raised to this point and trails an unelected, first-time Democrat named Shyam Reddy by almost $100,000.

    Handel’s questionable math stems from her December 31 disclosure, in which she raised $240,000, compared to $400,000 for Stephens and $334,000 for Reddy. Handel holds a small lead in cash-on-hand, but her disclosure also appears to have odd gaps in reported expenditures.

    Handel also took a cheap shot at Stephens by oddly claiming he “lost” money during his off-year fundraising and proclaiming herself the “real conservative” in the race for Secretary of State.

    “Senator Stephens moved up many of his campaign activities so he could keep his promise to serve in the legislature where he can’t raise money or campaign. This contrasts with Karen Handel’s actions, promising to run for re-election and then bailing out for another office,” said Stephens’ campaign manager Katie Grove. “We started tapering expenses in November and spent $125,000 less than other statewide campaigns overall. I want to know how Karen Handel’s running a viable statewide race if she is actually spending as little as she claims? She’s either hiding expenses or she never leaves Atlanta, where she raised over 90 percent of her money.”

    Stephens’ campaign also pointed out a glaring streak of political opportunism in Handel’s recent political career, including her insinuations she is the only ethical candidate in the race.

    “Handel ran for Fulton County commission pandering to gay groups by supporting gay adoption. Now, she’s against both and suddenly calls herself a ‘conservative.’ Last year, she promised to run for re-election, but is now bailing out. She gets beat by a no-name Democrat in fundraising, and yet she says she ‘wins’ the fundraising race,” said Grove. “Karen Handel is a political opportunist of amazing proportions.”

    “We have had enough of Handel’s political opportunism and cheap shots on ethics, and we are going to set the record straight,” said Grove. “Bill Stephens continues to be the only candidate with a consistent record of conservative leadership.”

    Go Katie and Go Bill all the way through November!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. 4ofspades says:

    Jackets – If you read Handel’s press release you will see that she was talking about the most recent disclosure period. She was the last one in the race. You may want to read Ron’s post again, which clearly show’s she outraised everyone in the last period

  13. law303peachtreeroad says:

    I’ve been watching the insults fly back and forth, and have to add my two cents. Bill Stephens has a LOT of influence in this state. He is an experienced legislator and has been through plenty of tough elections. Once you get past I-285 and get to the Lumpkin and Brooks County type of places the hicks that will be deciding this race have one pretty clear option.

    Whether she has been endorsed or not is a technicality that anyone below Macon won’t look into. That there is even speculation is enough to turn them off. Beyond that they are not willing to accept a female candidate, especially when the other candidate offers a compelling reason to vote for his platform. I think Stephens really has an issue that will stick with the Voter ID bill. It is an issue that has Board of Election members and County Commissioners rallying behind his stance on the issues, not cheap shots from the minority head of a Democratic County. Without the support of County Commissioner Handel is dead in the water, and Bill has wrapped most of them up.

    Before we digress too far let’s just remember that we are talking about running for Secretary of State of Georgia. In the end the Redneck Factor will be too much for Karen to overcome.

  14. Jackets over Dogs says:

    Hey 4,

    That press release in my last comment came straight from the Stephens campaign. Learn to read.

  15. 4ofspades says:

    Jackets,
    I’ll stand by my numbers for voters in Republican primaries. If you look at SOS website you’ll see that District 6 & 7 congressionals primaries in 2004 showed about 18,000 republican voters in Cherokee, and about 50,000 in Cobb, that doesn’t include any District 5 numbers for Cobb as there was no republican primary. District 6 was a highly contested race that had pretty good voter turnout.

    These are the numbers that were raised in the last reporting period for the current SOS race:

    Money raised during filing period ending Dec 31:
    Karen Handel 240,647
    Angela Moore 198,050.50
    Shyam Reddy 190,794.23
    Bill Stephens 171,365.05
    Bill Stephens 227,235 – 6/30 disclosure

  16. law303peachtreeroad says:

    Watching the insults fly back and forth, I feel like I have to add my two cents. Bill Stephens has a LOT of influence in this state. He is an experienced legislator and has been through plenty of tough elections. Once you get past I-285 and get to the Lumpkin and Brooks County type of places the folks that will be deciding this race have one pretty clear option.

    Whether she has been endorsed or not is a technicality that anyone below Macon won’t look into. That there is even speculation is enough to turn them off. Beyond that they are not willing to accept a female candidate, especially when the other candidate offers a compelling reason to vote for his platform. I think Stephens really has an issue that will stick with the Voter ID bill. It is an issue that has Board of Election members and County Commissioners rallying behind his stance on the issues, not cheap shots from the minority head of a Democratic County. Without the support of County Commissioner Handel is dead in the water, and Bill has wrapped most of them up.

    Before we digress too far let’s just remember that we are talking about running for Secretary of State of Georgia. In the end the South Georgia Factor will be too much for Karen to overcome.

  17. 4ofspades says:

    Law,
    Sorry if you thought my numbers were insults. I ‘m just trying to show what the real numbers are, not just opinions. Quite frankly, don’t know south of Macon well enough to agree or disagree with your analysis.

  18. Decaturguy says:

    I do not support Handel for Secretary of State but I thought I’d take on these two statements:

    “Karen is endorsed by the Southern Voice.”

    Not for Secretary of State she is not.

    “Look at the Voter ID Bill, where is Karen on THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE we face in Georgia right now.”

    She supports the voter ID bill.

  19. Decaturguy says:

    “Once you get past I-285 and get to the Lumpkin and Brooks County type of places the hicks that will be deciding this race have one pretty clear option.”

    First of all, over 26% of the Republican primary voters will be from Fulton, Cobb, and Gwinnett Counties. Fulton alone will account for over 7% of the total Republican voters. (In comparison Cherokee County, the so called “hotbed” of Georgia Republicanism, accounts for only 3% of the primary vote).

    Brooks and Lumpkin Counties COMBINED will account for only 0.0058% of the total Republican primary vote. I know where I would be spending my time campaigning – and it is not Brooks and Lumpkin.

    Before you all go and think that Fulton County Republican Primary voters are some left wing, liberal bunch, let me say that I’ve looked at the major Republican primary races in the past four years and whoever won Fulton County won the primary overall – every time!

  20. 4ofspades says:

    Just to set the record staright. SOVO endorsed Mitzi Bickers in the Chairman’s Race

    SOVO 10/31/03:

    ENDORSEMENT: Vote Bickers to lead Fulton County
    In an underwhelming field of candidates, Mitzi Bickers knows where to take the Fulton County Commission on gay issues.

  21. Decaturguy,

    You are right, that appromiately 28% comes from those three counties, and about 36% comes the top fives GOP Counties. The all happen to be in North Metro.

    Gwinnett-11.65%
    Cobb—-10.65%
    Fulton—6.25%
    Cherokee-4.25%
    Forsyth–3.01%

    If we go by your analysis, Karen comes from 6.25%, Bill comes from 7.26%, and Lamutt comes from 10.65% (and thats he does not divide Cherokee, which he would.)

    Gwinnett is still open game, as all of the candidates would probably poll around 7% right now (including Lamutt and Charlie)

    This race will be decided on TV.

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