Kingston vs. McCain on Iraq

See this story from The Hill newspaper yesterday. Congressman Kingston, who just returned from Iraq, is starting to be more vocal about his opposition to McCain’s amendments addressing “detainees.”

Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) may use anecdotal evidence that he gathered from U.S. soldiers in Iraq as political ammunition against Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) legislation on military detainees.

The article also goes on to mention a little tidbit of Kingston’s post on earlier this week, which, in case you don’t know, was co-founded by Erick and Clayton. Correction: Erick and Clayton sit on the board of; however, it was not co-founded by them. My apologies.

In a blog entry published Sunday on, Kingston said that he planned to talk to Gen. George Casey, the commander of the multi-national forces in Iraq about McCain’s legislation. However, he did not meet with Casey on the trip because Casey was in Albania, Kingston said.

I know McCain is supposedly the “Master of all things military” and should be considered an expert on this subject due to his own time spent as a prisoner, but passing these amendments apparently isn’t going to be as simple as he thinks.


  1. UGA Wins 2005 says:

    Kingston is right on target. It seems that McCain is appealing to the “moderate” read: Liberal, base he thinks is turning against the war.

    Message to McCain: As John Murtha has erased all the good he may have done in and with the military, so too can you.

    Beware, you are close.

  2. Bull Moose says:

    I think it is absolutely insulting and irresponsible for Jack Kingston to try and take this issue on against John McCain.

    In case Mr. Kingston forgets, Senator McCain was all but forgotten in Vietnam, having been shot down and captured by our enemies — the original terrorists — the communists. McCain was tortured and tormented and I think he speaks with clarity on this issue loud and clear.

    We are the United States of America. Being the supreme super power of this world comes with a certain responsibility in how we conduct ourselves in military matters and such forth. If we resort to terroristic actions and abuse, then we have stepped down and are no better than our enemies.

    As far as I know, Jack Kingston has never served in the military and has never been strung up as a prisoner, been denied food and water, or had his life threatened for not cooperating with the enemy.

    When it comes to this matter, I’ll take John McCain over Jack Kingston anyday.

  3. Clayton says:

    Just a point of clarification – Neither Erick or I founded, we were added to the Board of Directors at the time it incorporated as a 527 PAC.

    It is accurate, however, to say that Erick and I are very actively involved in the day-to-day operations and direction of, and we both still serve on the Board. The essence of your remark (as a disclosure) was correct.

  4. Bill Simon says:

    I saw John McCain on Tim Russert’s Meet The Depressed this morning.

    Unlike what wussy-boys like Jack Kingston, and the others who talk smack about McCain under anonymous names, McCain spoke the truth about several issues.

    On the issue of banning “cruel torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners”, McCain said that “if we do that, then we will be opening-up the door to similar treatment to any American soldier who gets captured” in this war, or in any war in the future.

    To Russert’s point about CIA Director Porter Goss’s claim that, on occasion, they have been able to extract meaningful intel from a few prisoners by using torture, McCain responded along the lines of this: “It was one particular occasion that the information for going to war with Iraq was a claim from a supposed trusted informant about Saddam having WMDs…that piece of information was never challenged by the CIA as being factually accurate…yet, Goss now feels that information extracted under the duress of torture of a prisoner would be more accurate? No, I don’t think the information gained through torture would result in enough reliable information to justify torture…”

    On the subject of Jack Abramoff’s influence-peddling and Ralph Reed, McCain was asked if he knew if there would be indictments handed down from the Justice Department. McCain responded that “Sure, they should be lots…not that I am in communication with the Justice Department…Look, I did not convene this investigation by my own hand…tribal chiefs from across the country came to this committee and spoke about this problem…that is why we are investigating these matters.”

    Jack Kingston, and anyone else on this board who lobs anonymous grenades at John McCain, can go back to molesting farm animals because that is the apparent intellectual capacity of anyone who partakes in such chickensh** dialogue about trying to teardown McCain..

  5. Bull Moose says:

    I had no qualms about Jack Kingston until he tried to take on John McCain over issues surrounding treatement of prisoners of war… And what did Jack do, go and explain the McCain amendment to the troops and see how they felt about it? His arguement is just rhetoric…

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